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    Seeing minimal gains (10whp) on Ray's car, from stock to the DNP kit, I don't think it's that beneficial to go oversized, I know the math says otherwise.

    On another note, I've got a CX side mount hard pipe kit on my car and it's garbage in the fitment department, though it was their first release, years ago. But looking at it, I believe it could be modified to fit better and possibly bring that front cross-over pipe that goes over the exhaust manifold, to go under, though, after looking, I'm not sure how much gains would be had as it'll be close to the downpipe/precat although airflow might be better in that area.

    Here's what I found for reference on the ETS kit.
    ETS front piping.jpg

    You could do a similar routing to this, but come off the drivers side cooler exit and up past the front turbo to the Y-pipe. The difference here is the fact that the ETS kit runs near the hot exhaust BEFORE the intercooler, where as on the side mount setup, it would be AFTER the intercooler, so I don't know if there's as much of a benefit to cooling performance as I thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihil View Post
    Seeing minimal gains (10whp) on Ray's car, from stock to the DNP kit, I don't think it's that beneficial to go oversized, I know the math says otherwise.

    On another note, I've got a CX side mount hard pipe kit on my car and it's garbage in the fitment department, though it was their first release, years ago. But looking at it, I believe it could be modified to fit better and possibly bring that front cross-over pipe that goes over the exhaust manifold, to go under, though, after looking, I'm not sure how much gains would be had as it'll be close to the downpipe/precat although airflow might be better in that area.

    Here's what I found for reference on the ETS kit.
    ETS front piping.jpg

    You could do a similar routing to this, but come off the drivers side cooler exit and up past the front turbo to the Y-pipe. The difference here is the fact that the ETS kit runs near the hot exhaust BEFORE the intercooler, where as on the side mount setup, it would be AFTER the intercooler, so I don't know if there's as much of a benefit to cooling performance as I thought.
    Gains of 10whp from upgrading pipes but still having stock cores is pretty impressive IMO. I'd love to see Ray do a back to back again with Bob's upgraded cores and stock pipes, then switching back over to the DNP pipes. Would indicate if the cores held it back from higher gains from upgrading piping.

    As to utilizing an under turbo pipe set up, you'd likely still see some improvements routing it that direction, especially if you wrap both the exhaust and the IC pipe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sergechronos View Post
    Gains of 10whp from upgrading pipes but still having stock cores is pretty impressive IMO.


    That is actually a HUGE gain for just changing out pipes.

    Back on topic. Bob, the side mounts are incredible!

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    Didn't want to derail the classifieds thread..

    So in the 2" option, would it be wise to have it taper down to the 1.75" or 1.5" right as it enters the Y pipe or would a custom 2" inlets on the Y pipe be better seeing how it only opens up to at most a 3" and then tapers back down to 2.75"?

    Any thoughts on this? I want to minimize power loss as much as possible but don't want to create some sort of turbulence or reversion issue. I really know nothing about this stuff so I figure I should see if anyone can educate me a little on it. Please and thank you.

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    DNP pipes are 2" when they enter their Y-Pipe.

    Quote Originally Posted by vTaKwiTHsLiCkS View Post
    Didn't want to derail the classifieds thread..

    So in the 2" option, would it be wise to have it taper down to the 1.75" or 1.5" right as it enters the Y pipe or would a custom 2" inlets on the Y pipe be better seeing how it only opens up to at most a 3" and then tapers back down to 2.75"?

    Any thoughts on this? I want to minimize power loss as much as possible but don't want to create some sort of turbulence or reversion issue. I really know nothing about this stuff so I figure I should see if anyone can educate me a little on it. Please and thank you.
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    Large SMIC's with 2" piping, these just came out soooooo nice.




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    Have you test fit these on a stealth? The front bumper covers are a bit different so yea....Just a thought


    Nice work Bob.

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    Sorry I haven't as I don't have one to test fit them on. Be the first

    Quote Originally Posted by Darksurfr View Post
    Have you test fit these on a stealth? The front bumper covers are a bit different so yea....Just a thought


    Nice work Bob.

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    How's this for fitment


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    I have had the 94, 97, and 99 3k bumpers as well as the 1G stealth bumper. Measured them out for a SMIC project of my own, 1G Stealth and 97 3k have the same horizontal clearance. Obviously 1G stealth is a bit shorter because the bumper angles up but I didn't go into measuring out how much it would poke out under the front.

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