My LCD screen project, boost, WBO2, Knock, etc

[2fnloud]

PM'd about lending you a series 2 EMS.

[Alan92RTTT]

I saw this on his car lsat ngiht. He ran us through all of the options and setting.


WOW!


Now I need time for an install.

[Toni]

Well I must say I like the data logging option for this. I'm going to be moving to a 98/99 ecu and haven't found a good way to get knock indication as well as being able to easily log. The standalone logger on the OP2 will accept anything from an Innovate MTS procotol chain but that isn't exactly convenient and I still can't display knock live and still log everything else. I don't know how many people use LogWorks software from Innovate but it would be awesome to have that protocol support. I have dual lc1s, ssi4, and an lma3 so I use it all the time but my problem is having to look at two charts all the time. What are the chances for an upgrade to allow the controller to output data in the MTS Protocol? Innovate publishes the specs. That would also allow people with innovate wbs to use the digital data instead of worrying about analog conversions and error. The controller would be the first device in the chain much like an LM1 and daisy chain into the other innovate devices.

[Jesters Deadd]

Well I must say I like the data logging option for this. I'm going to be moving to a 98/99 ecu and haven't found a good way to get knock indication as well as being able to easily log. The standalone logger on the OP2 will accept anything from an Innovate MTS procotol chain but that isn't exactly convenient and I still can't display knock live and still log everything else. I don't know how many people use LogWorks software from Innovate but it would be awesome to have that protocol support. I have dual lc1s, ssi4, and an lma3 so I use it all the time but my problem is having to look at two charts all the time. What are the chances for an upgrade to allow the controller to output data in the MTS Protocol? Innovate publishes the specs. That would also allow people with innovate wbs to use the digital data instead of worrying about analog conversions and error. The controller would be the first device in the chain much like an LM1 and daisy chain into the other innovate devices.

Keep the two LC1s and ditch the rest of the innovate stuff. The 99 ECU plus this is awesome for logging and tuning. I have the 99ECu two LC1s and the BlackStealthlcdBC its great.

[Hans@GZP]

Keep the two LC1s and ditch the rest of the innovate stuff. The 99 ECU plus this is awesome for logging and tuning. I have the 99ECu two LC1s and the BlackStealthlcdBC its great.

Have you seen all the crap that Toni logs? LOL. He probably knows the steering angle of his rear wheels at all times with that damn thing.

[Toni]

Keep the two LC1s and ditch the rest of the innovate stuff. The 99 ECU plus this is awesome for logging and tuning. I have the 99ECu two LC1s and the BlackStealthlcdBC its great.

I can't just "ditch the rest of the innovate stuff." I find myself using it all the time. For instance, I'm having some fueling issues that I'm trying to debug. I was able to log fuel pump pressure, current, voltage, boost at plenum, boost at fpr etc. I also use it to overlay telemetry when I do track videos. I use it quite often and i want to make it easier on myself to only have to log one stream type. I also love the logworks interface.

Granted when the car is working I have no reason for extra channels but as we all know, things come up and I hate throwing money at problems or buying something aftermarket for a bandaid covering something up. I also enjoy tinkering with it all. It's obviously not for everyone but I love the technology of it all.

Just curious how do you log both wideband channels?

Have you seen all the crap that Toni logs? LOL. He probably knows the steering angle of his rear wheels at all times with that damn thing.

Hmm steering angle... maybe I can add that Why stop at just the rear? How about front steering angle as well and add that to some telemetry for autocross/road course that would be kinda neat

[Simace]

Awesome! Just finished installing the LCD/Main unit. Now need to plug-in the WB02 and Boost but looking for a little help on those - not sure how to do this while getting rid of my TruBoost Gauge/Controller and AEM UEGO Gauge.

Here's my feedback on the device so far:

1) Standardization of the various data names, for example: instead of it saying KNOCK, KNK (or similar 3 character abbr.)

2) The DEFAULT screen to include one additional, if two is not possible, data elements: see below

-ONE ADDITIONAL DATA ELEMENT ADDED TO DEFAULT screen
14.7 0.0 0 13.5
WB1 PSI KNK THR

-TWO ADDITIONAL DATA ELEMENTS ADDED TO DEFAULT screen
14.7 0.0 0 13.5 1500
WB1 PSI KNK THR A/F

And lastly, making the other "screens" carry 4 data elements each (thereby reducing the total number of "screens" for the same data)

This is a great product and I am VERY pleased with its' quality/build and BlackStealth's continued support.

Good shit!!

[Simace]

More feedback....

I've setup both the WB and Boost controller portions. The WB is a piece of cake (white wire from EUGO). The Boost controller was equally simple (two-wires and a vacuum line).

Using the Boost Controller and its' performance
Over time I've used a Halman PRO RX(?) and a TruBoost boost controllers. Both, no matter how hard I tried (and others tried), I could never get boost to peak and hold. I had to resort to less-than what I tuned for. For example; I tuned for 16psi, both could be setup to hit 16psi but as the RPM would climb the PSI would drop, significantly, to about 11-12psi by redline.

Using BlackStealths' boost controller, I use the "Dutycycle Offset" feature so that as RPM's rise, so does the dutycycle. The net affect is that boost remains at peak (or very close) without overboosting. I can say that my car now "pulls" much much better up top where it used to run out of steam.

Another great feature is the "START PSI" and "END PSI". This assists spool-up time and it is definately noticeable.

With these features, wastegate creep and boost creep can actually be delt with, almost completely. No more need to shim or alter the stock wastegates so that they remain closed longer.

The price of BlackStealths' device, for just its' boost controller feature alone is well worth the price!!

VERY VERY PLEASED CUSTOMER!! Great job on the device BlackStealth!!

Time to revise my sig...

[DK77]

I definitely want one of these in the future. My question is how much boost will this be capable of supporting? Can an external solenoid and sensor be used?

[green-lantern]

I definitely want one of these in the future. My question is how much boost will this be capable of supporting? Can an external solenoid and sensor be used?

I can't see any reason at all it can't support whatever your turbos can do. It uses and external solenoid to control the boost but the sensor is in the box under the dash.