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    So you're going to tell me that I have a 1/4 mile or more of vision in front of me and its not safe to pass? Hell some of the double yellow areas I pass on used to be passing zones until a few years ago when some lawmaker decided it would be better not to be a passing zone because it might make more revenue for the state if a cop witnesses you passing someone safely there.

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    They are both in the wrong. It is not legal for any motorized vehicle, bike/car/etc, to pass on a double yellow. Period. You don't get to play the "I know what I am doing, bikes can pass cause they have awesome power and can get out of trouble if they need to" card. It is illegal. But, the truck swerved over to hit him. Which is equally as bad. Yes, equally. They both can do harm to themselves and innocent drivers by breaking traffic laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthee View Post
    So you're going to tell me that I have a 1/4 mile or more of vision in front of me and its not safe to pass? Hell some of the double yellow areas I pass on used to be passing zones until a few years ago when some lawmaker decided it would be better not to be a passing zone because it might make more revenue for the state if a cop witnesses you passing someone safely there.
    Does NOT matter what you think or how you think your skills can do it. It Is Illegal. If they are now double yellow you don't get to feel it should still be a passing zone and disobey the current traffic law in place.

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    Personally, I don't see double yellows here in NY unless it's obviously unsafe to pass. I do see double yellows rarely on a back road that appear to be safe to pass on, but I don't do it. Not only for the fear of cops possibly being around to witness it, but because I have at least an ounce of patience. I can wait for the next available dashed yellow, no big deal.

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    Here in my area of PA passing zones are few and far between. I can go 15 miles without a passing zone so I am going to take the opportunity if given.

    And to say that attempted murder is on an even keel with an illegal pass is laughable at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beepbeep View Post
    There is so much wrong with this statement.
    You're obviously not a rider. The rules of the road were written with the average car in mind, and what they can safely do. If you don't think that is the case, you are mistaken.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja Performance View Post
    They are both in the wrong. It is not legal for any motorized vehicle, bike/car/etc, to pass on a double yellow. Period. You don't get to play the "I know what I am doing, bikes can pass cause they have awesome power and can get out of trouble if they need to" card. It is illegal. But, the truck swerved over to hit him. Which is equally as bad. Yes, equally. They both can do harm to themselves and innocent drivers by breaking traffic laws.

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    I never said what the rider did was NOT illegal. But you suggesting that a lone rider attempting to pass someone is on par with that truck driver swerving to kill him? That'll probably be the dumbest thing I hear all day. One violation would result in a traffic ticket. The other would be an attempted murder charge.

    Quote Originally Posted by stealthee View Post
    And to say that attempted murder is on an even keel with an illegal pass is laughable at best.
    This.

    I've been riding for more than 15 years. I've always thought it should be mandatory that people who learn to drive a car must also learn how to ride a motorcycle, unless there is some handicap that they cannot operate a bike. It builds a heightened awareness of traffic, and teaches you to pay attention at all times. You're never going to see a rider texting or putting on makeup while on a bike. If that redneck had a bike of his own, or knew how to ride one, he would have never attempted to run that guy off the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthee View Post
    And to say that attempted murder is on an even keel with an illegal pass is laughable at best.
    While I am not speaking for NP, I feel what he was trying to say is that BOTH acts are illegal and BOTH acts go against traffic laws, regardless of whether you are riding a motorcycle or driving a truck. BOTH were in the wrong. Neither one was more 'in the right' than the other. Either one of those maneuvers very easily could have resulted in the death of a driver or rider.
    And to give the impression that bikers have a "right" to disregard traffic laws simply because they are on a motorcycle is quite silly. No one driver or group of drivers are above/beyond the law. Just MHO, of course.

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    Riding around here in east Tn ive noticed its always the pickup trucks that feel like they have to prove something. Whenever i go to pass a vehicle and they speed up, its always a pickup. Whenever i pass someone and they then proceed to speed up stay on my ass, its always a pickup.

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    3. 2 streetbikes couldn't outrun a pickup with a 4 wheeler in the back?
    Its riders like you that end up wrapped around trees. Good luck with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tackhammer View Post
    Riding around here in east Tn ive noticed its always the pickup trucks that feel like they have to prove something. Whenever i go to pass a vehicle and they speed up, its always a pickup. Whenever i pass someone and they then proceed to speed up stay on my ass, its always a pickup.

    Its riders like you that end up wrapped around trees. Good luck with that
    Are you on a bike or just speaking in general?

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