What Apple product/s do you use?

[UTRacerX9]

why, in the face of everything that rationally speaks to the contrary--do people indulge? and it's not isolated to apple...its pretty systemic. still...none of that effects me.

what does effect me...is what these sheeple (in large numbers) are capable of. ....like picking elected officials, for instance. if we can't get the masses to rationally select electronic hardware--what possible hope do we have for the future? and i'm not even really worried about the future. i'm worried about how it effects me. every day that goes by i get the feeling more and more that i'm living inside the movie idiocracy.

So... How do you explain your recent large expenditures to upgrade a 20 yr old car, that will never be worth what you paid for? Sounds a lot like buying an Apple product to me... when there are cheaper, faster options available.

[IPD]

not really an "apples" to apple comparison there, genius.

the features i want in a car:

v6
tt
awd
hatchback
coupe


suddenly my "choices" for car are a lot fewer than my choices for a smartphone.

p.s.

"cheaper & faster" is a joke. you can buy a 2g stealth tt in good condition for <$8,000. for less than another $7,000--you can make it faster than a c6 z06. there isn't a new (or pre-owned car within the last 5 years) that will give you that kind of return on investment--regardless of what you intend to sell (or not sell) the vehicle for.

now if, on the other hand, every firebird, camaro, corvette, z, supra, nsx, etc....came AWD from the factory...i might have more options. but that would be as silly as claiming the iphone is the only phone that can function as an mp3 player.

[UTRacerX9]

not really an "apples" to apple comparison there, genius.

It actually is, genius. Every car has features, so does every phone. You in fact, just listed the features you wanted in a car. I guess you are unable to comprehend that someone might choose a phone based on features THEY want. Who gives a shit what YOU want.

[IPD]

It actually is, genius. Every car has features, so does every phone. You in fact, just listed the features you wanted in a car. I guess you are unable to comprehend that someone might choose a phone based on features THEY want. Who gives a shit what YOU want.

no...it's still not. nearly every smartphone has the same exact features; they're only differentiated (to a small extent) by the processor & the presence of a physical "qwerty" keyboard. besides, if you ask your average iphone user (which, i'm going to assume you either are...or have been) what features made them choose an iphone over anything else, the response is always the same:

"it's an iphone".

that's not a feature. that's a sheeple.

[stealthify]

no...it's still not. nearly every smartphone has the same exact features; they're only differentiated (to a small extent) by the processor & the presence of a physical "qwerty" keyboard. besides, if you ask your average iphone user (which, i'm going to assume you either are...or have been) what features made them choose an iphone over anything else, the response is always the same:

"it's an iphone".

that's not a feature.

So, by your own admission, nearly all smarphones are exactly the same. Apple devices vs Google devices, etc etc. Glad we could clear that up. That's basically what I've been saying all along about the Mac vs PC debate -- we all use the same components these days.

As far as your "average" iPhone user, I challenge you to go talk to your "average" Android user to ask them why they picked an Android-OS device over an iPhone. If they truly are an 'average' user (ie: not technically inclined like most of us in this thread are), their response will always be the same:

"it's not an iphone"

Back to square one. By fighting "becoming a sheep" for one company, they've become a sheep for another. Funny how that works, isn't it?

[GTO Assassin]

Who gives a shit what YOU want.

He just doesn't get it and wont ever I dont think. lol

Scotty

[IPD]

So, by your own admission, nearly all smarphones are exactly the same. Apple devices vs Google devices, etc etc. Glad we could clear that up. That's basically what I've been saying all along about the Mac vs PC debate -- we all use the same components these days.

As far as your "average" iPhone user, I challenge you to go talk to your "average" Android user to ask them why they picked an Android-OS device over an iPhone. If they truly are an 'average' user (ie: not technically inclined like most of us in this thread are), their response will always be the same:

"it's not an iphone"

Back to square one. By fighting "becoming a sheep" for one company, they've become a sheep for another. Funny how that works, isn't it?

you do realize that there's more to the market than just android and iphone...right?

you do realize that just because the features are identical between devices doesn't mean the hardware, durability, reliability, etc...are also the same?

[stealthify]

Of course, that's what the 'etc etc' was about in my post. But I don't see anyone here proclaiming their love for RIM, WM7 or Symbian, do you? Regardless, that's not even close to the point of my response.

doesn't mean the hardware, durability, reliability, etc...are also the same?

they're only differentiated (to a small extent) by the processor & the presence of a physical "qwerty" keyboard.

Are these not the hardware features you were speaking of?

As far as durability and reliability; show me some documented proof that Android devices, as a collective lot, are more reliable than an iPhone. Oh, what the hell - I'll do it for ya.

SmartPhone Comparison Study | Android, Blackberry, iPhone Failure Rates | SquareTrade Warranties
iPhone edges out Android smartphones in reliability race - Computerworld
iPhone edges out Android smartphones in reliability race « Innovation 2.0 and…

I know you and I had our fun in the last thread, but you're making this too easy. As satisfied as I am with my Apple products and as much as you may despise them on a personal level and vow to never own one, this is a debate that can't be won.

[IPD]

of course apple has the lowest failure rates. jobs personally announces to all the i-tards that "it's not a flaw, it's a feature". your iphone was meant to drop calls, have a yellowish screen, etc.

i don't consider hardware to be a feature. features are like:

720p display
hd video recording
4g access

hardware isn't a feature. sure, it's a discriminator--but it's not a feature. soon (if not already) smartphones will all feature hardware which is virtually irrelevant when comparing phones. heck, the pc market is practically there already (it certainly seems like it's been there for a while).

i'm glad you're satisfied with it. you didn't pay for it. if you like it; keep it. i STILL say that dollar for dollar--you can do better. and i know people won't; the 30% failure rate of xbox 360's didn't slow down consumers--there certainly isn't any reason for apple's woes to stop them.

[GTO Assassin]

Jesuz H Christ you're an imbocile! Now you're saying iPhones are the only mobile phone to drop out while online or during a phone call? My N8 has frozen, dropped out and atleast once freaked the fuck out for no real reason. I think it's obvious your parents worked for apple and fostered you out at an early age. Sorry to hear about that!

Scotty