Military + Gov't shutdown = ????

[R/T93]

I am a DoD employee for the US Navy,I wont be getting paid, but will still report to work to DO MY JOB and fix submarines and send them to sea so they can DO THEIR JOB. The rumor is we will get our retroactive pay.

I just want to know, next friday (what would normally be my payday) if I am going to get paid for the full two weeks I had worked? or one weeks pay. No one has been able to answer this for me.

And eljefefx, our sailors have been leaving at like 11am every day for weeks :/

[zapman2000]

LOL I know most SSBN guys leave at about 1300 at the latest unless
There's training going on but that's only in off crew
HTC EVO

[EvanH]

Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't the 13th amendment state that you can only work for free as a punishment? I have done nothing wrong. And my contract did not state "will work for free.".

[whitedragon]

Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't the 13th amendment state that you can only work for free as a punishment? I have done nothing wrong. And my contract did not state "will work for free.".

If you read the fine print, you'll notice that you forfeit some of your rights to join the service, and you serve at the behest/pleasure/whim of the government, your commanding officer, commander in chief, and anyone else that gives you a lawful order to continue working.

You're not working for free either, you still get a roof over your head, food, medical care, and other essential items, and you most likely will be getting paid retroactively anyway.

If anything, even if you don't get paid, it will be more like an pay cut to your annual salary rather than straight working for free.

[j2k4]

Did I hear right that Obama has declared all military personnel re-designated as "non-essential for the time being"?

[IPD]

i'll still show up for work. i'll still work there for the immediate future. when i hit the point where i start having problems paying for my bills, i'll go out and get another job; and then the government can try and take it up with me when i don't show up for work because i'm out trying to actually earn a paycheck.

p.s.

i keep tabs. i never forget who i owe and who owes me. this won't be something that "quietly goes away" if someone tries to shortchange me. compensation was a key impetus behind my agreeing to swear an oath. as much as i dearly love my own personal freedoms--denying me my just compensation a breech of contract.

[Dbeltran24]

Exempt employees cannot have their salary reduced for absences occasioned by the
employer or by the operating requirements of the business. In general, if the employee is ready, willing,
and able to work, no deduction may be made from the predetermined salary when work is not available.

http://www.paychex.com/pdf/exempt.pdf

Info above is from the Federal Labor Standords Act

If you are a exempt salary employee, they have to pay you while you are out of work, or fire you then rehire you.

My company is considering the second option

[j2k4]

i keep tabs. i never forget who i owe and who owes me. this won't be something that "quietly goes away" if someone tries to shortchange me. compensation was a key impetus behind my agreeing to swear an oath. as much as i dearly love my own personal freedoms--denying me my just compensation a breech of contract.

I heard that - the state of Michigan still owes me about 3K in travel expenses from my tenure back in the '90s.

They also owe me a pension, so I'll broach the subject when I start drawing.

[IPD]

http://www.paychex.com/pdf/exempt.pdf

Info above is from the Federal Labor Standords Act

If you are a exempt salary employee, they have to pay you while you are out of work, or fire you then rehire you.

My company is considering the second option

i'm of the mindset that the first people NOT to get paid should be the legislators that got us into this mess.

[BigTyla]

A lot of people down here in Huntsville will be receiving stop work orders at 12:00 AM Saturday morning. Fortunately my program is funded for the next 6 months so I am presently in the clear.

Unlike soldiers, programs that continue work during this time might not get compensated for their time. There is a big gray area in the defense contracts right now over what to do when one program might deem a work continuation totally necessary, and yet they know they run the risk of losing a ton of money if the government comes back and refuses to compensate them for their work during the work stoppage.

I feel bad for those affected by this. My company provides furlough benefits to those with 2+ years with the company, but the compensation plan is one year with the company = one week's worth of pay to a minimum of four weeks. After that benefit ends, it appears they are treating those affected as taking a leave of absence and will be draining their vacation time accordingly. Really crappy situation.