Bitching about a 4g in a 3000GT

[anyonebutme]

I'll go down my list while I'm thinking about it:


2G Stealth:
Carbon hood
lexan roof panel
gutted interior, power windows still, no speakers or radio or anything but seats, ECU, and a couple aftermarket gauges inside
solid mounts
no AC, no heater core, no blower, just firewall
cruise delete
sound and heat insulation delete
ABS delete
AWS delete
SRS delete
had CFDS
bumper delete
single shot exhaust, catless
had coilovers
lightest 18x9.5 wheels I could find that didn't cost $3K a set
Conti challenge slicks
lots and lots of removed brackets and stuff
big brakes were a wash weight wise, my 355mm just about same weight as stock brakes.
FMIC which saved a bit of weight
gutted headlight intake
splitter gained some weight back
wingless at the time
NA brake booster
vac reduction and deleted everything I could
no washer tanks
fog light delete
fender plastics delete for whats that worth
fixed back racing seats mounted solid, no sliders
small things like crank pulley, alternator tensioner delete
really light steering wheel, lol

I'm sure I'm forgetting more. Still couldn't break the 3K lb raceweight barrier. Time for more carbon, more lexan, and more holesawing.

[IPD]

alright, my time to shine.

**geek glasses**
actually, being closer to the earth's core would result in weighing less. with less matter between you and the center there is less gravity created. higher altitude, more matter, more gravity.
FACT.

**removes glasses**

I don't buy it. If that were the case, then people in DAYLIGHT should theoretically weigh less than people in NIGHTTIME...because the sun is exerting greater gravitational pull on the sunny side (the side facing it).

[CoreyB]

Are you sure thats not the case?

[Greg E]

I don't buy it. If that were the case, then people in DAYLIGHT should theoretically weigh less than people in NIGHTTIME...because the sun is exerting greater gravitational pull on the sunny side (the side facing it).

No no no... You got it all wrong.

The proof that there's more weight closer to the earth is the same reason there's more air in the lower elevations.

[95gto]

I have about that many deletes and weight reductions done. My car weights just under 3400 without me in it according to the tech scales at an NHRA track. I still have plenty left to do if I wanted most of which being chopping away with small weight reductions but outside of no A/C or cruise control my car is full luxury. 95 and 96 Stealths didn't have most of the tech from earlier years or 3000GTs so that also helps.

My car is a 95 so I don't have the extra weight of the pop up or glass lights. And the active exhaust motor and module is not present. I do still have the front AA motor sans assembly and the rull rear AA setup though.

Did they have standard race scales with one scale per tire or was it just one large pad?

Don't know what to tell you Mr. Dragon.

Jeremy

The list below suggests there is something going on. Maybe I'll get good news and find out the scales read high. I like the idea of free weight savings, however that damned Murphy tends to make things go the other way.

I'll go down my list while I'm thinking about it:


2G Stealth:
Carbon hood
lexan roof panel
gutted interior, power windows still, no speakers or radio or anything but seats, ECU, and a couple aftermarket gauges inside
solid mounts
no AC, no heater core, no blower, just firewall
cruise delete
sound and heat insulation delete
ABS delete
AWS delete
SRS delete
had CFDS
bumper delete
single shot exhaust, catless
had coilovers
lightest 18x9.5 wheels I could find that didn't cost $3K a set
Conti challenge slicks
lots and lots of removed brackets and stuff
big brakes were a wash weight wise, my 355mm just about same weight as stock brakes.
FMIC which saved a bit of weight
gutted headlight intake
splitter gained some weight back
wingless at the time
NA brake booster
vac reduction and deleted everything I could
no washer tanks
fog light delete
fender plastics delete for whats that worth
fixed back racing seats mounted solid, no sliders
small things like crank pulley, alternator tensioner delete
really light steering wheel, lol

I'm sure I'm forgetting more. Still couldn't break the 3K lb raceweight barrier. Time for more carbon, more lexan, and more holesawing.

I wonder how much Pete's car weighs, his car is also pretty stripped down with the addition of a cage.

And per this thread:
http://www.3sgto.org/transmission-su...s-correct.html

garage link to car here:
3000GT / Stealth / GTO Forum - VB Pro Garage

Erron's car weighs 3318 fully race prepped. The point of the OP in that thread was to compare chasis to chasis, so I don't think that number includes a driver and I'm not sure how much fuel would have been in either vehicle. Now the car does have a pretty substantial cage but does it weigh the same as the full hatch forward interior with working AC and metal doors and fenders?

[95gto]

I also noticed that Erron notes his tech/race weight at 3450 on the bottom of his garage page.

[AdamVR4]

[QUOTE=AdamVR4]

AdamVR4's car is in the 34xx range IIRC. His car is far from gutted. I had mine down near that, and that's with a 200 lb mild steel cage and aftermarket seats that ended up weighing as much as the stockers. Weighed on a certified scale. I had no a/c, no carpet, gutted hatch (but added a custom firewall where the cargo cover would normally be), no radio, no speakers, fg hood, 17lb wheels, cfds, no sunvisors (lol), cut off all the useless brackets. Still had ecs, abs, aws, all interior panels, all power accessories (doors, windows, etc.), stock dash. No swiss cheesing anywhere.

Jeremy

Not quite:

http://www.3sgto.org/3000gt-stealth-...tml#post203202

"Today {2012} it weighed 3245 lbs at the end of the night (3266 at the beginning)"

I didn't have to do very much... Not having a sunroof helps some

[i3igpete]

I wonder how much Pete's car weighs, his car is also pretty stripped down with the addition of a cage.

Scott @ Izzy's weighed mine at 3340 with the cage, and he estimated the tubing adds up to ~145. So ~3200.


here's a list of mods that I haven't done:
window+motor delete (24lb / side)
carbon doors (30lb / side)
steel->carbon hatch (18 lbs)
rear glass-> lexan (12 lbs)
front glass-> lexan (12 lbs)
rear tubular crash bar (5 lbs)
fuel cell (10? lbs)

Other than that, I think I've got pretty much everything deleted/replaced, except for custom suspension arms or subframes.

3200-24-24-30-30-18-12-12-5-10= 3035 without a holesaw or a welder. Also still have most of the stock wiring.


I'm pretty sure jfast is under 3000 with his mods, but i'm pretty sure he's got custom subframe/suspension stuff. Alison is also under 3000 but I know she went holesaw-crazy.

[familyMAN]

Man this thread got all informative and stuff...lol.

I need to weigh my car. My estimate based on stock curb weight (3790) and the items I have weighed with removal is 3411. Full cloth interior but gutted hatch area. Stock hood and hatch. Extra 50lbs for auto but removed 80 for 4g swap. The normal other weight reduction (some sound deadening, vac canister, abs, PS, aluminum exhaust, awd delete, lighter wheel/tire combo, etc)

Pete since you have your car weighed, how does that compare to what you have removed from the advertised curb weight. Does it match?

[i3igpete]

I never really weighed anything when I took it off.

Just remembered one more mod I haven't done.
Power steering delete (front pump and manual front rack) = 20 lbs according to JonW.

Car was weighed with only driver seat (sparco side mount) and no wing, so that's already accounted for.

so 3035-20 = 3015

I would say 3000 lbs is the absolute lowest you can go without cutting the frame in any way.