So who wants their ECU's "Chromed"?

[Greg E]

I watched the videos you posted, so I know that they don't directly translate to afrs, I was just wondering what people's experience with observed afr's vs the map was with properly dialed in injectors, maf tables, and no boost leaks.

I thought that the evo's guys tables were actually richer than what the observed afr was, that is what I wanted to double check before I start changing the fuel tables.

Thanks for the info, very helpful. That is crazy that the car's stock are basically setup to run flat 10s or even in the 9.x afr area, I knew they were rich, but I was thinking they were closer to 10.5:1.

Yep! How do you think I got 15 more HP at the wheels without touching boost?

Remind me tonight to show you a neat trick to tuning the Fuel tables.

[Chris@Rvengeperformance]

Yep! How do you think I got 15 more HP at the wheels without touching boost?

Remind me tonight to show you a neat trick to tuning the Fuel tables.

would love to see your trick!

This explains why I had to pull sooo much fuel out of the top end when I was using the emanage to get to 11.5:1. It is no wonder these cars are pretty hard to blow up BPU.

[J-Groove]

Is it tail pipe afr from the dyno then?

Yup.

The car was almost 100% stock (high flow cat with Borla cat back, SSR lighter wheels).

-John

[sublime_whatigo]

would love to see your trick!

This explains why I had to pull sooo much fuel out of the top end when I was using the emanage to get to 11.5:1. It is no wonder these cars are pretty hard to blow up BPU.

Greg you must show me your secrets at UMG, also you have a place to crash yet? We have an opening in our room.

Back on topic, with emanage blue and 560's it worked out perfectly for me to tell it I had something like 590-600cc injectors, that made the idle perfect and wot at 11.3, just had to add fuel for under partial boost. Looking like I'm going to try something similar with the flash ecu, at 565cc injectors im idling pretty rich.

[Chris@Rvengeperformance]

Greg you must show me your secrets at UMG, also you have a place to crash yet? We have an opening in our room.

Back on topic, with emanage blue and 560's it worked out perfectly for me to tell it I had something like 590-600cc injectors, that made the idle perfect and wot at 11.3, just had to add fuel for under partial boost. Looking like I'm going to try something similar with the flash ecu, at 565cc injectors im idling pretty rich.

start with the latencies, they have the greatest effect on idle.

Are you using evo 560s? The known latencies in the evo world may not match up perfectly since their injector drivers may not be the same.

[sublime_whatigo]

EVO 560's. You think so? I figured I would give it a shot to see if I can fix 2 problems with 1 change.

[Chris@Rvengeperformance]

EVO 560's. You think so? I figured I would give it a shot to see if I can fix 2 problems with 1 change.

what are your current latencies, scaling, and fuel trims?

[Greg E]

start with the latencies, they have the greatest effect on idle.

Are you using evo 560s? The known latencies in the evo world may not match up perfectly since their injector drivers may not be the same.

They match perfectly. It's the scaling that is different.

Some tweaking with the MAF tables will make your fuel table match closer to your WB.

[Greg E]

Greg you must show me your secrets at UMG, also you have a place to crash yet? We have an opening in our room.

staying with the WI guys. We got a pimp room this year.

I saw Brett bitched out.

[Chris@Rvengeperformance]

They match perfectly. It's the scaling that is different.

ah that's awesome. Is our injector hardware basically the same?

Edit: I wish I had my evo 560s from years ago instead of these pte's.