tranny removal?. clutch chatter..

[DuTTch]

isit a 6 puckclutch? my old one rattled like crazy, drove me nuts, specially in stop and go traffic or driving up a slanted driveway. Made me buy a base atx 3000GT

[shmoo]

^^yup, it's an upsprung six puck.

i really don't mind the chatter. i just don't want the chatter (possibly coming from loose bolts) to fall apart. i'd rather just take it apart.

how can i tell if my clutch chatter is actually an issue? what exactly is it? loose pressure plate bolts?

thanks everyone

_isiah

[Hans@GZP]

Pressure plate bolts just don't come loose unless you never tightened them in the first place.... and then the clutch would never engage. So, it's 99% not your pressure plate bolts if you can still drive the car normally. The chatter can be caused by the hub inside the disc being a little loose.

[DrGonzo]

Mine has been rattling like crazy lately and I have tried everything I can think of. New Throw-out bearing, Input Shaft bearing, Checked the clutch and PP "Stock"....etc!

I am using syncromesh and I'm thinking I need to move up to something thicker or use a 70/30 mix (70% with mobile1 75w90) and see if that quiets things down any.

[CoreyB]

Put in the factory recommended non synthetic oil

[shmoo]

thanks everyone^^^

well i'll take another step away from the notion that it's the bolts on the pressure plate.

if i keep worrying about it, i'll just remove the tranny and to the tob, and maybe this input shaft bearing.

are you talking about gear oil, or motor oil. i generally tun a combination of royal purple, and lucas in my transmission/ while i though thick junk into my transfercase, since she won't stop leaking..



thank you~~! and like i said it's hardly annoying me. i just don't want a break

and, Hans, can the hub inside of this "clutch" disk be tightened?

AND, now i keep hearing some very audible buzz whenever i shut the car off. sounds like a pissed off bug that's gotten himself stuck amongst pickles.it seems like it's coming from under my head unit. is this some type of arching issue or something. i know the wiring done hasn't been near professional grade.

_isiah

[DrGonzo]

thanks everyone^^^

well i'll take another step away from the notion that it's the bolts on the pressure plate.

if i keep worrying about it, i'll just remove the tranny and to the tob, and maybe this input shaft bearing.

are you talking about gear oil, or motor oil. i generally tun a combination of royal purple, and lucas in my transmission/ while i though thick junk into my transfercase, since she won't stop leaking..



thank you~~! and like i said it's hardly annoying me. i just don't want a break

and, Hans, can the hub inside of this "clutch" disk be tightened?

AND, now i keep hearing some very audible buzz whenever i shut the car off. sounds like a pissed off bug that's gotten himself stuck amongst pickles.it seems like it's coming from under my head unit. is this some type of arching issue or something. i know the wiring done hasn't been near professional grade.

_isiah

Does the rattle seem to go away when you press in the clutch?

Mine went away for the most part. I would start with changing out the tranny fluid for something thicker and see if that helps before dropping the tranny.

I am actually wondering if there is something loose inside mine. I used a stethoscope on mine and most of the noise was coming from the end case. so I am wondering if I have some roller bearing "besides the input shaft bearing" making all the damn noise.


BTW: The noise you are hearing is the damn door buzzer behind the radio. Probably so old and worn it sounds like a pissed off bug now...LMFAO!!!!!

[CoreyB]

I have heard the reverse idler gear can float and rattle.

[shmoo]

Does the rattle seem to go away when you press in the clutch?

Mine went away for the most part. I would start with changing out the tranny fluid for something thicker and see if that helps before dropping the tranny.

I am actually wondering if there is something loose inside mine. I used a stethoscope on mine and most of the noise was coming from the end case. so I am wondering if I have some roller bearing "besides the input shaft bearing" making all the damn noise.

BTW: The noise you are hearing is the damn door buzzer behind the radio. Probably so old and worn it sounds like a pissed off bug now...LMFAO!!!!!

it's hardly a rattle, it's more like a nice tasty knock. and yes, it completely goes away if i engage the clutch.it knocks just as often if not more than my lifters tick.. unless the clutch is engaged.

I have heard the reverse idler gear can float and rattle.

hohmm. it's really less of a rattle. i say a rattle can be fun, this sounds broken. it's like a "tak tak tak tak tak tak tak tak! like i'm happy to shut my car off so she doesn't have to listen/ deal with all that taking.

and if it is this so called idler gear, this is actually inside the tranny's gears, isn't it? i've taken my tranny off three times, but i'm a little worried to actually open her up.

_isiah

[DrGonzo]

Rattle, Knock... it just sounds like something is broken and banging around! LOL

Yeah mine is the same noise and the same issue that it goes away when I push in the clutch. That is why I believe it is something internal with the trans itself. When you push in the clutch it is disengaged, the internals of the trans are not loaded and the noise goes way. When the internals have a load "clutch engaged and in neutral" it makes the noise.

Going to try the heavier gear oil and see if that helps any as I know the syncromesh is pretty thin on it's own.

I'll try and get a decent video of the sounds tonight and post it up.