Cell phone gurus come in!

[onebadmollafolla]

That is how you argue and defend yourself? Cannabis has nothing to do with this. So what is your point? Just because I consume cannabis does not mean I am any smarter or dumber than one who doesn't. Act like an adult.

Let me repeat myself. To do what I had to do is really just unacceptable, and the fact that you are trying to defend it is retarded.

Anyone with a 6th grade education will agree with that statement. Quit being ignorant.

Sorry.

[blindmist]

Sorry.

It's ok. I still love you.

[NickS VR4]

http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dro...r-droid-x.html

[terrets]

Okay. Battery life on the droids is mostly due to people not knowing how to turn off their bluetooth, wireless, app updates, and other extras. Plus most phones that arent smart phones have to be plugged in every night too.

The reason your iPhone doesnt brick so easy is because it is much more restrictive with the OS and has more built in fail safes because of this. The reason Android doesnt have so many fail safes is because its an open OS. And when you root it, you are actually rooting it. Not the weak jailbreaking. I think if jailbreaking was truly rooting the iPhone, youd have just as many iPhones bricking.

Now can we please not argue which OS is better because frankly, Android is still fairly young and getting all its kinks worked out. And iOS is based off of OSX if Im not mistaken. Giving iOS a fairly big head start being based off an already proven OS..... I think Android 2.3 just came out and this may help the system. Its only been available for 5 days...From whats listed for the update, it seems it helped the platform a good amount.

I must say that Android OS is better because it is based of the Linux kernel and I believe there is much more that can be done with it. It is also open source. Open source FTMFW.

Steve Jobs is a control freak. Maybe its cause he got his shit stolen way back when. Dumbass.........Im not a fan of Windows or Apple, but it seems I have to be familiar with both because of how many people use both. . Plus programs that require Windows.

Now for a basic user I would probably say the iOS platform is better because of its ease of use and it is also faster out of the box. (Not sure how fast Android 2.3 is though)


I am getting a Droid 2 for the simple fact that they are BOGO right now leaving the price at about $120 for two phones including the MIR. I still would probably get a droid though. Im not a basic cell phone user though and Ive stated my reasons I prefer Android. Also has a physical keyboard which is a huge win.


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And Im not sure if it was mentioned in this thread yet because I read quickly through it, but from what Ive read, a CDMA version of the iPhone will be coming to Verizon in the first quarter of 2011. There are a few rumors that it will show up in January and Im thinking this is true, especially with a lot of the Android phones being BOGO. Verizon is going to be making a lot of money when this phone hits the market. My Verizon rep also mentioned they are looking to bring 4G to WI fairly soon but only around the Fox Cities and other big cities. They need to update their towers though. He also stated to me that they have been stress testing the 4G network and have been getting download speeds of around 18mbps and 4 or 5 mbps upload IIRC. Bitchin! Seeing as I dont have internet at home.

And Im not sure how different the hardware for CDMA and GSM is but I may venture to guess the CDMA iPhone will have some problems right away.

[terrets]

Honestly I would be happy with Droid's physical keyboard if it would autocorrect words that you type. Blindtype will do that, and is why I would like to use that. There are pros and cons of both, but right now I would MUCH rather use a physical keyboard. Main reasons I love a physical keyboard.... doesn't take away from my screen, the feel of actual buttons, gaming buttons. I do think the Blackberry storm was onto something with being able to touch the screen without clicking. This would allow you to play flash games better, and act like a mouse to point, then click.

Why would you want autocorrect. I dislike autocorrect very much so. What they need is to have a spell checker just like Word programs that you can click the underlined word and it will bring up a small menu of correctly spelled words.

Physical keyboards fucking rock.

I will for sure give up the better camera for the keyboard. I would rather own a separate camera than use my phone anyways.

[stealthify]

You guys are so passionate about your phones.

Just a few notes:
The iPhone/iPod Touch OS is based off of Mac OS X, which (in turn), is actually based off Darwin (a lightweight, open-source, Unix style OS).

Steve Jobs is a control freak, but you say that like it's a bad thing. As (internally) upset as I was when I heard of amazing apps being denied from the App Store, I'm glad to see good 'ol Steve-o loosen his grip quite a bit over the last year or so. I understand both sides of the argument: Apple's being that they don't want to let 'crap' into the App Store, and Android/free-world people complaining that Apple is therefore too restrictive. This leads me to my next point.

I would consider myself an ADVANCED user, and I use an iPhone. I'd venture to say that there is very little you can do with your Android device that I can't do with my iPhone. Or, at least, I'd consider it a good challenge to try anyway.

Between Apple's stringent App Store policies, and the underground world of Jailbreaking, I don't particularly feel too restricted.

This same debate has been waged over Microsoft vs Apple for years, but it's always amazing to see how much misinformation is out there. The truth is, if you get yourself a GOOD Android device (and there ARE a lot of crappy, out-dated ones), you will probably be happy with it. If you get yourself an iPhone 4, and find you want MORE than it offers you under its factory settings, the options ARE out there for you to customize it further (much like our cars).

Is that pretty fair to say, in your guys' opinion?

[terrets]

I say it is fair. Good luck convincing me to buy an Apple product though . Or Microsoft for that matter.

You are probably right about little that the Android can do over Apple. I guess I probably wont get deep enough into the OS right now to notice a difference. I do like it that Android is Java though. And its great that its based on the Linux Kernel. Plus it has true multitasking. Its much more like a desktop computer too, which is why I believe there is more to be done with it.

Im a Linux guy. And I believe that the Android platform will take over in the future compared to iOS.

[stealthify]

I say it is fair. Good luck convincing me to buy an Apple product though . Or Microsoft for that matter.

You are probably right about little that the Android can do over Apple. I guess I probably wont get deep enough into the OS right now to notice a difference. I do like it that Android is Java though. And its great that its based on the Linux Kernel. Plus it has true multitasking. Its much more like a desktop computer too, which is why I believe there is more to be done with it.

Im a Linux guy. And I believe that the Android platform will take over in the future compared to iOS.

I won't argue with that. But I do have to admit, Apple's method of achieving multitasking was pretty innovative. In its current state, I am not envious of the "true" multi-tasking that Android users like to boast about.

But you blind yourself by not seeing the benefits that all platforms have to offer. I predict that it'll be a good race, and neither platform will roll-over for the other. This is one of the most mainstream and competitive technological fights going on at the moment - and as long as there is money to be made, both Google and Apple will likely do what it takes to gain user popularity.

In the end, we (as the end-users) will be the winners.

[blindmist]

The reason your iPhone doesnt brick so easy is because it is much more restrictive with the OS and has more built in fail safes because of this. The reason Android doesnt have so many fail safes is because its an open OS. And when you root it, you are actually rooting it. Not the weak jailbreaking. I think if jailbreaking was truly rooting the iPhone, youd have just as many iPhones bricking.

Do I need to post a picture of me executing a su command on my iPhone? The reason there aren't so many bricked iPhones is because of something called Mobile Substrate. Google a little more. I can completely demolish the file system through SSH if I wanted to with su on my iPhone, and the MAIN reason it cannot be bricked is because of the hardware failsafes. Also, MOST of the modifications done to the iPhone can be reversed outside of recovery mode because of Mobile Substrate.

I must say that Android OS is better because it is based of the Linux kernel and I believe there is much more that can be done with it. It is also open source. Open source FTMFW.

The iPhone is based off of a unix kernal, just like the linux kernal is. Do I need to post a screen shot of my kernal?


Let me put it like this. There is absolutely nothing a person can do to their iPhone, besides damaging the hardware physically, that you cannot fix. 90% of the time, the fix is just plugging it into iTunes and click Restore. The other 10% is doing that and using a program called Tiny Umbrella.

[terrets]

Haha I know I was teasing about the whole multitasking thing. I love how Apple lovers implied that Android doesnt have multitasking when comparing the two.

Its not that Im blinding myself, its that I dont want to own 2 phones and I would rather indulge myself with one platform as I believe I can learn more about the one than trying to learn both. Ive been trying to pay attention to what both have to offer, and I do believe that Apple will come out with something that Android doesnt have and drive both to keep competing. Android will also come out with stuff Apple wont have. Now, I do blind myself a little to Apple and Microsoft for other reasons..


You are correct good sir.