How come no one makes a full replacement silicone SMIC pipes?

[FeaRpb]

See if Treadstone would be up for the task.

[mb7050]

they already have cores which would be perfect C300 300zx Intercooler Core- TREADSTONE PERFORMANCE

[dbest671]

Doing anything for this platform is not going to make you rich; as soon as you realize that you can decide if you want to proceed with new products. Most of the individuals that make/do stuff for the platform do it out of love.

Also, you can only beat a "dying" horse so many times before it gives up the ghost. In the almost six years I've been a member I have seen the community be taken advantage of time and time again by companies/people that promise the world. Some even had a decent reputation before screwing people over.

Even Gene had a product to show before running off with tens of thousands of dollars.

[Greg E]

Doing anything for this platform is not going to make you rich; as soon as you realize that you can decide if you want to proceed with new products. Most of the individuals that make/do stuff for the platform do it out of love.

Also, you can only beat a "dying" horse so many times before it gives up the ghost. In the almost six years I've been a member I have seen the community be taken advantage of time and time again by companies/people that promise the world. Some even had a decent reputation before screwing people over.

Even Gene had a product to show before running off with tens of thousands of dollars.

+1

Some people are motivated by persuit of wealth (some call that greed), some people are motivated by passion. Whatever the motivation, the reward only comes to those who work for it.

[jbuhrman]

And right now my motivation to find someone to take on the SMIC's is boredum.... Im not even joking work is slow and quiet so I can use my time to assist other in their pursuit of power.

[J. Fast]

...
I didn't put the time into Chrome for the $$. I have a full time job that pays my bills.

Why then? Three reasons. Passion, sense of accomplishment/pride and respect.

This community is awesome and I love seeing what people have done with my work. You can't put a price tag on the number of times my name gets compared to the big businesses or seeing someone take my work and build some pretty awesome cars with it. You can't put a price tag on the sheer number of people who thank me and appreciate the efforts I did to give them something without demanding something in return. Repect and praise is a reward far greater than $$.

There is indeed a demand for a simple tuning solution that works well with minimal effort. Oddly, most of the customer base don't even buy a flash ECU for its tuning potential. They bought it because their original ECUs have died and they just want a quality replacement piece. How many 1Gs were sold? How many of them need new ECUs by now?

I'm not gonna speak for the motivation behind both my hardware counterparts getting involved because they don't give their product away. They did, however, research, design, test and manufacture it out of pocket. It was an investment without any kid of fundraiser option. Now that they have a product to sell, they are making return on their time. No one paid them to do it. There was no promise of sales.

That's how you make $$ on anything (not just this 20 year old "dying" platform). It's a risk investment that maybe pays you back later. Another term is entrepreneurship. You create a product or service, then put it out there in the hopes people will pay you for it.

Is there a demand for quality innercoolering solutions for this platform?
Yes.

Are they gonna pay for it?
No, not until you make it available to them.

After that?
I'd be willing to invest the capital to say yes. At the very least I can make back my capital investment.

Is it gonna be worth the time?
In my opinion, hell yes!

Good post. I like entrepreneurial spirits. However, money talks. Treadstone, Bell, or basic run of the mill mom and pop shops will ask for the same thing I did... A deposit for the run. I keep hearing "make something tangible to convince me to buy" comments. Fabricators and businesses say, "Give us some money first and we will". We seem to be trapped in this vortex of who's going to front it.

dbest seems to think there's 10 people that are interested in purchasing side mount intercooler kits and piping kits. Get your investors together and start waving cash...

[dbest671]

Good post. I like entrepreneurial spirits. However, money talks. Treadstone, Bell, or basic run of the mill mom and pop shops will ask for the same thing I did... A deposit for the run. I keep hearing "make something tangible to convince me to buy" comments. Fabricators and businesses say, "Give us some money first and we will". We seem to be trapped in this vortex of who's going to front it.

dbest seems to think there's 10 people that are interested in purchasing side mount intercooler kits and piping kits. Get your investors together and start waving cash...

You know how I know I'm right about there being interest if you had a product to show...

I started a GI thread for billet strut covers without an actual product to show. No bites, interest but no actual commitment. I eventually got my strut covers, for $220 shipped.

A few months after I get mine... Dave from Pampena produces them first, almost doubles the price I got mine for, and sells them. There was no GI thread or I have an idea thread. He just had them made without trying to raise the capital for production from the customers.

And what you, J. Fast, don't understand is... Your reputation isn't strong enough for the platform to support throwing money at you to build stuff. Especially when you couldn't provide examples of the work you claimed to have done for other platforms when asked.

[j2k4]

I didn't put the time into Chrome for the $$. I have a full time job that pays my bills.

Why then? Three reasons. Passion, sense of accomplishment/pride and respect.

Is it gonna be worth the time?

In my opinion, hell yes!

Good post. I like entrepreneurial spirits. However, money talks.

Two different philosophies, that's all.

The first is speculative and exploratory out of the gate - 'let's see where this goes...'

The latter assumes a single, conditional shot - in the shape of a group buy - to ascertain a risk worth taking.


Jeremy is right; materials need purchased, equipment, professional time must be calculated - this assumes a certain production level to plumb risk/reward.


Greg is right, too: 'Let's take what we have on-hand and see what we can do with it - we will use technology to guarantee repeatability.

If it works, we go fast, and see how many people ask us why.

Both approaches have merit; which will get the job DONE?

[GTOJOE]

What about ARC? they used to make a kit for our cars. I know because I'm using one lol. Maybe they still have the templates and can make them again?

[NOMIEZVR4]

shameless plug

I've got a set of DSM SMIC and Stock SMIC's for sale.