How come no one makes a full replacement silicone SMIC pipes?

[dbest671]

For that kind of money hell you could buy the welder, the cores, the piping, and have some left over for some blow... The run for new products is pretty much over. It's a 20 year old car. All the money's been spent and swallowed up. Guys still hanging around are building products themselves. There's no money in a product like that for a corporation like ETS. 10 sets is a joke for them. Maybe 100 sets will get their attention. It's just too much effort for $2000 profit. 10 sets is a spec dirt that gets dusted off. Maybe the next F&F movie will revive a slow dying breed. Doubt it but...

Glad to know you keep up with the price of "blow" LOL. Funny how you say that's expensive but yet only say they would make $200 in profit for a set

[fastfalcon94]

ETS does make other sidemount kits for other cars (audis). Maybe you could modify some easily for a 3s.

[Greg E]

The run for new products is pretty much over. It's a 20 year old car. All the money's been spent and swallowed up.

You know how many times I heard that during the development of Chrome?

[dbest671]

IDK, I've seen plenty of "new products" come out in the past couple of years. The problem is some people try to sell an idea and get pissed when nobody wants to buy into an idea. Then you have those produce a product (or commission the production) first, and then sell it, have more success.

[Chris@Rvengeperformance]

I asked et's about making sidemounts and they refused.

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[J. Fast]

You know how many times I heard that during the development of Chrome?

You know why it was successful? Because none of the developers or engineers got paid. It took what 1000 collective hours to realize the product? Most engineers I know rate out at over $100hr. So it would have likely cost $100,000 to bring a consumer ready, tested, and marketable product. Legitimate business don't do that. Nobody got paid for "Chrome" it was all volunteer and donation so don't talk like the supply demand is equivalent. If you tried to recoup that $100,000 in the 100 units sold to date you would have to charge over $2,000 a unit to break even.

IDK, I've seen plenty of "new products" come out in the past couple of years. The problem is some people try to sell an idea and get pissed when nobody wants to buy into an idea. Then you have those produce a product (or commission the production) first, and then sell it, have more success.

How do you sell a building or house that's only on paper? Only a fool would build it and then try to sell it. On a product when there's no guarantees to recoup your investment, the way you just described is bad business. That's how companies fold, and how our economy ended up in a big bailout.

I asked et's about making sidemounts and they refused.

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I'm not surprised.

[Greg E]

You know why it was successful? Because none of the developers or engineers got paid. It took what 1000 collective hours to realize the product? Most engineers I know rate out at over $100hr. So it would have likely cost $100,000 to bring a consumer ready, tested, and marketable product. Legitimate business don't do that. Nobody got paid for "Chrome" it was all volunteer and donation so don't talk like the supply demand is equivalent. If you tried to recoup that $100,000 in the 100 units sold to date you would have to charge over $2,000 a unit to break even.

Only 100 units sold??

The numbers are over 300 now and continuing to grow. Chrome has been DLed more times than that.

One of these days ill write myself a paycheck instead of reinvesting it all into the business.

In all your speech about the insider knowledge of my business, you forgot about the hours invested into customer service too.

[dbest671]

How do you sell a building or house that's only on paper? Only a fool would build it and then try to sell it. On a product when there's no guarantees to recoup your investment, the way you just described is bad business. That's how companies fold, and how our economy ended up in a big bailout.

If you have no reputation behind your awesome house on paper... yeah you will have to build it first or have a company that has a reputation build it for you. Only an idiot (or somebody rich willing to gamble) would buy plans for a house from a nobody with no previous work to show his/her abilities. Last I checked, there are plenty of spec/models homes too, so they do build it first

And companies build shit all the time before selling, that's why we have things called prototypes and concepts. Sometimes they have the eat the cost of R&D and sometimes they make bank, it's a roll of the dice.

[jbuhrman]

Well give me a few hours and I'll tell you how many people would need to show interest/commit to ETS for them to even go blow the dust off those stock side mounts they have laying in their shop, just need to wait for a response from them.

[dbest671]

ETS may be to big of a company, need to find something smaller. There is definitely an interest but members don't want to finance a move/house/BMW bike again, and you will need the support of both forums (sad but true). They also want to know the company/person that has their money has the capabilities to build a quality product.