Official 2013 NFL Discussion Thread

**sergechronos** · 10-31-2013, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by sketch

The KC @ Denver game will give us an excellent match up with the #1 offense vs the best performing defense out there, though I'm not so sure how the game stacks up in the opposite direction. KC isn't a scoring juggernaut, putting up an average of 24 points/game and the Denver defense is allowing an average of 27.25.

Some things have to be considered with those stats for Denver's defense though: Namely that the offense scores very quickly, often putting that defense back out there on short rest and their opponents are throwing the ball a lot. Given the rules of defense vs the pass, more likely to give up a long pass. Kind of one of those "even a broken clock is right twice a day" sort of things. And the reverse is true for KC, their defense forces offenses off the field pretty quickly so they get more chances to try to score with better field position. So you can't just take stats for stats sake. I'd say Denver's Defense is better than people give them credit for, and KC's offense is worse than the stats show.

**HilbillyHomeboy** · 10-31-2013, 10:50 AM

I agree on the potential split series(but I love KC coming off a bye). And possibly a loss to the Colts. I don't envision any other drops. Insane that the Chiefs could only lose as many games this year, as they won all last season. LOL.

I'm not mad, sketch. I know what you're saying. I just had to get it in that the Broncos have to score 30 because they're giving up almost as many.

Jeremy

**HilbillyHomeboy** · 10-31-2013, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by sergechronos

Some things have to be considered with those stats for Denver's defense though: Namely that the offense scores very quickly, often putting that defense back out there on short rest and their opponents are throwing the ball a lot. Given the rules of defense vs the pass, more likely to give up a long pass. Kind of one of those "even a broken clock is right twice a day" sort of things. And the reverse is true for KC, their defense forces offenses off the field pretty quickly so they get more chances to try to score with better field position. So you can't just take stats for stats sake. I'd say Denver's Defense is better than people give them credit for, and KC's offense is worse than the stats show.

The Broncos are averaging 30:34 TOP vs. their opponents at 29:26. 581 offensive plays versus 542 for their opponents.

Why they win is pure efficiency. 44 TD's vs. 25 for their opponents.

Jeremy

**sketch** · 10-31-2013, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by HilbillyHomeboy

I agree on the potential split series(but I love KC coming off a bye). And possibly a loss to the Colts. I don't envision any other drops. Insane that the Chiefs could only lose as many games this year, as they won all last season. LOL.

I'm not mad, sketch. I know what you're saying. I just had to get it in that the Broncos have to score 30 because they're giving up almost as many.

Jeremy

never thought that you were mad =b
just wanted to back up my post with some math. math is awesome.

**IPD** · 10-31-2013, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by sketch

Sorry, I don't see why someone would hate teams for their success. Yes, I know your thoughts on spygate & Belichick, we don't need to rehash that. But Bruins/Sox/Celtics?

I rooted for the celtics. That's also the last time I'll ever root for any Boston teams. Sports are inherently more boring when the SAME FREAKING TEAMS win every year. I'm ecstatic about Chicago taking it again this year. Lord knows the Bulls, Bears and Cubbies aren't doing squat. I'd be MUCH happier to see a 4-way championship decade in the windy-city than in NE...that's for DAMN sure. I'd even be happy to see Detroit pull it off (even though I HATE the pistons). It would really be nice to see a team like the Bills or Bengals win the SB or someone like Pittsburgh win the Series.

Boston can suck it. Live long and Suck it.

**sketch** · 10-31-2013, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by IPD

I rooted for the celtics. That's also the last time I'll ever root for any Boston teams. Sports are inherently more boring when the SAME FREAKING TEAMS win every year. I'm ecstatic about Chicago taking it again this year. Lord knows the Bulls, Bears and Cubbies aren't doing squat. I'd be MUCH happier to see a 4-way championship decade in the windy-city than in NE...that's for DAMN sure. I'd even be happy to see Detroit pull it off (even though I HATE the pistons). It would really be nice to see a team like the Bills or Bengals win the SB or someone like Pittsburgh win the Series.

Boston can suck it. Live long and Suck it.

k.