My DR1400 project started today

**SnakeSkinner** · 08-02-2013, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Permanent grin

Yeah, as soon as Ben saw it wasn't making more power he let off. I really wish he would continue so I can see where my shift points are but bear in mind the guy had just pulled an all nighter to get my car running! I think we can forgive him eh? I'll have a word with him when we re-dyno for the side exits. The only way it will continue to increase with more revs is with more boost / timing.

André

That is a huge mistake when it comes to racing, shifting were power stops going UP.

Take a look at my dyno chart

Do you think I was shifting my car at ~6000 rpm were it's power stopped going up? NO I was shifting at ~8500rpm. That wide power curve kept me in the peek power all the way down the track. If I had shifted at 6000 I would have fallen way out of the power band and had to rebuild. Huge cams, huge overerly laggy turbos are grate for dyno numbers but wide power-bands are grate for track times....... (why do you think my car was always faster then Nelson's lighter, more powerfull, car even with him having a auto...)

**mehrshadvr4** · 08-02-2013, 05:31 PM

Nelson never got a clean run with auto though. The only time he ran was at dsm shootout and he couldn't build boost off the line because of not being able to spray so the turbos could build boost in 2nd gear. People say his car built boost right before 1/8.

**SnakeSkinner** · 08-03-2013, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by mehrshadvr4

Nelson never got a clean run with auto though. The only time he ran was at dsm shootout

His car had a Auto in it in like 2006 When Ray ran 9.6's in his car at the GN, he want back and forth from auto to stick a few times when he was trying to get the car to preform, he had that car making 1300+ whp peek for 7+ years and according to him "going to races all over the place, and racing all the time", and in 7 YEARS he never got one clean pass? And all the time posting that "he will run 8's this week and you can take that to the bank"

Also according to his own posts he got the car down to 2500lb.

you really drank the koolaid hu? His car never ran 8's cause it was not capable of running 8's in the configuration he built it in. If it was it would have in 7 years of "racing it all the time all over the place"

Originally Posted by mehrshadvr4

he couldn't build boost off the line because of not being able to spray so the turbos could build boost in 2nd gear. People say his car built boost right before 1/8.

You made the point of my post exactly. His car had no bottom end there for did not run very well down the 1/4 mile.

**R/T93** · 08-03-2013, 12:37 PM

Mmmmmm, grape drank

From the phone.

**mehrshadvr4** · 08-03-2013, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by SnakeSkinner

His car had a Auto in it in like 2006 When Ray ran 9.6's in his car at the GN, he want back and forth from auto to stick a few times when he was trying to get the car to preform, he had that car making 1300+ whp peek for 7+ years and according to him "going to races all over the place, and racing all the time", and in 7 YEARS he never got one clean pass? And all the time posting that "he will run 8's this week and you can take that to the bank"

Also according to his own posts he got the car down to 2500lb.

you really drank the koolaid hu? His car never ran 8's cause it was not capable of running 8's in the configuration he built it in. If it was it would have in 7 years of "racing it all the time all over the place"

You made the point of my post exactly. His car had no bottom end there for did not run very well down the 1/4 mile.

This is the only time he ran auto with out breaking it. Yes his turbos are too lagy and terrible to run with manual transmission with no spray, but with auto his car had a lot more potential. He only needed to spray when tq in it so he can build boost and that day according to him the nitrous was not working.
Look at this video. You really think he couldn't get a lot faster with auto if he was able to build boost right from start? the car doesn't build boost till 2nd gear and it still trapped 169mph. I'm just pointing out about you said his turbos are too lagy for even auto, but those turbos are perfect for auto since it would never go off boost as soon as they build boost.

The other time where he went to track was domestic vs imports and he broke it that night so that was the only time he could get multiple runs without breaking.

**R/T93** · 08-03-2013, 04:36 PM

I could do multiple runs about 20x a year at my local track. I would say that is typical for any track in the country. You don't have to wait for a national scene to race your car. Look at all off Matt's passes, or anyone's, they are on a typical weekend test and tune day. Nelson has no excuse for lack of track time or passes over the half a dozen years he vowed to break Matt's still standing record.

From the phone.

**R/T93** · 08-03-2013, 04:37 PM

Double post

**mehrshadvr4** · 08-03-2013, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by R/T93

I could do multiple runs about 20x a year at my local track. I would say that is typical for any track in the country. You don't have to wait for a national scene to race your car. Look at all off Matt's passes, or anyone's, they are on a typical weekend test and tune day. Nelson has no excuse for lack of track time or passes over the half a dozen years he vowed to break Matt's still standing record.

From the phone.

This has nothing to do with the argument. The point was the turbos are not too lagy for auto trans with a help of nitrous to help them come a live.

**Permanent grin** · 08-07-2013, 02:38 PM

Here is my new custom dual pass radiator that fits 'under' the slam panel which as you can see allows the stock fans to be used even with my DR1400s and screamer pipes. The picture is of the big stock fan. The 2 blue pipes to the left go off to my laminar flow oil coolers.

André