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    The bolts are good, they have a lockout tab and shouldn't rotate but we'll see on Friday. I like thw idea because the don't impact the front swing arm and roll center position as dramatically as shifting the camber plates. The adjustment is clser to the hub so the roll angle stays closer to the ground. I covered up the lower geometry as I think thats a service that should be paid for as It gives up the ghost on my setup. This will be racecar #2. Gave you the skInny over the phone....
    Oh! Ya, I didn't use the tab's on mine, I couldn't get them over far enough with the tabs in place. I've heard you can drill additional holes for the locking tabs but didn't want to drill the JIC's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sergechronos View Post
    So J, how much total are you into for your suspension at this point?
    $2500 per car average. Everything I'm bolting on is used and rebuilt to my spec from racecars on evolutionm. I did pay 5K for two sets of JRZ's worth 15K. My third set which is Muellerized JIC's were $1400 with respring and revalve. Add in there $1,000 or less in misc hardware, corner balancing, alignments, fitting all 3 sets and advanced training on shock rebuilds and optimizing suspensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vroom4 View Post
    Any ideas how I would go about getting some 'crash bolts' made for a different platform? My mazdaspeed3 needs them horribly and mazdaspeed motorsports basically said im SOL.
    I would contact SCR, they have a good relationship with that crash bolt mfr. They might even have them in stock. Number is on the alignment sheet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Fast View Post
    $2500 per car average. Everything I'm bolting on is used and rebuilt to my spec from racecars on evolutionm. I did pay 5K for two sets of JRZ's worth 15K. My third set which is Muellerized JIC's were $1400 with respring and revalve. Add in there $1,000 or less in misc hardware, corner balancing, alignments, fitting all 3 sets and advanced training on shock rebuilds and optimizing suspensions.
    Impressive..And these are still streetable for you? Had been looking at dropping around 2k into the Apexi S1 set up from SCE, but wouldn't mind paying another grand or so for the performance you seem to have wrung out of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sergechronos View Post
    Impressive..And these are still streetable for you? Had been looking at dropping around 2k into the Apexi S1 set up from SCE, but wouldn't mind paying another grand or so for the performance you seem to have wrung out of them.
    DEFINITELY, you can do whatever you want with them because they're rebuildable and the springs are hella cheap! There's really good deals to be had at Evolutionm for unilateral parts. A setup I keep eyeballing is a triple adjustable KW Robispec Rally Suspension selling for $3500 right now. It's easily a $10,000 setup (total baller setup) and would handle like a dream wherever you employed it. It's the same setup 7 of the top 10 finishing teams at Pikes Peak Hill Climb used.

    I ran some S1's a few years ago. I really didn't know much about suspensions back then so I yardsale'd them. I will say if I purchase another performance car in the future my first upgrades will be brakes, suspension, tires and corner balance/alignment. A good setup is enlightening.

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    That had been my plan until my motor crapped out. Went with 13Ts during the rebuild, will be switching to E85 in a couple months and then get the suspension components right. Bright side of it all though is at the time I would've just shelled out for the S1s and adapters, and had no idea about how it actually works. Won't be a drag race monster, but should make for a much improved streetcar that doesn't handle like a 20 year old car..Need to get off my ass and get to making poly bushings.

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    Here's BC Racings dyno's, They're opposite of Megans, These are suppose to be specific to our platform for the AWD, as when I requested them, I gave them the part number. So, out of all the different "tuner suspensions" Megan and BC Racing are the only two who've supplied dyno graphs. BC will take custom requests, and ships all coilovers with dyno's matched at 5%. There's a lot of good reviews from other platforms, one being an NSX club and SCION. These are what I'm going to be going with, with a 11k/11k setup, valved to match. We'll see how they turn out...anything is going to be better than 20 year old stock suspension.

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    Nihil,

    I am definitely not a suspension guru, but what I have going on with my new ECS struts is very nice and performed very well at NG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2fnloud View Post
    Nihil,

    I am definitely not a suspension guru, but what I have going on with my new ECS struts is very nice and performed very well at NG.
    Yeah, I looked into that as well, and I'm goin with a full coilover setup instead. I'm really interested in seeing what a properly set up tunes suspension setup will do, I also want to go lower than what stock can adequately provide.

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    A well done coil over system (read: J's) should exceed the capabilities of the stock system in terms of handling, response and comfort. The stock ECS system is highly capable though and not a bad system all together, but it definitely isn't as low as it could be, and putting lowering springs on it tends to wear it out. Factor in the high cost of replacement, not really a bad idea to swap to coilovers.

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