Official 2013 NFL Discussion Thread

[IPD]

Speaking of Cowboys, Josh Brent went back to jail for failing a SECOND drug test after his arrest and charge with intoxication manslaughter, yet he remains on the Cowboys roster.

Keep it classy Dallas.

speaking of felonies. how the hell did ron artest still manage a career in the NBA after the detroit incident?

[stealthee]

Whether you like it or not, throwing a drink at someone is considered assault. He was assaulted, he retaliated.

[sergechronos]

I'd imagine having Tebow on your football team is like having Buddah on your competitive eating team. dude just wins. now I know what you're going to say, "but he was on the Jets and they sucked". to which I reply, true but Jersey is the 4th circle of hell and that's the Devils playground.

I've got to be honest, Tebow was a much better passer in college before he tried to change his throwing motion. While my car is very much "if it's ain't broken, fix it till it breaks", for athletes I'm a big believe of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." Should've just stuck to his guns and probably would've been better off. The thing I've noticed, during his time at Denver when he was actually allowed to throw the ball anyhow, was when he's at his best (the 2 minute drill at the end of halves and scrambling and shit) he reverts to his original throwing motion and is much more accurate. I think he is spending too much brain power thinking and trying to concentrate on maintaining the "correct" throwing motion when he's not in hurry up.

[sergechronos]

speaking of felonies. how the hell did ron artest still manage a career in the NBA after the detroit incident?

Cause the NBA is rigged? Also, sports have proven numerous times over the years that pretty much no matter what else happens short of going to jail, you will always get a shot if you win and/or are exciting. Look at Suh (numerous incidents), Vick, Gilbert Arenas in just the last few years. Broke actual laws (not just fighting with fans), and yet they're all still playing..Well..Arenas was after his. Not sure what happened to him.

[Echo419]

I've got to be honest, Tebow was a much better passer in college before he tried to change his throwing motion. While my car is very much "if it's ain't broken, fix it till it breaks", for athletes I'm a big believe of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." Should've just stuck to his guns and probably would've been better off. The thing I've noticed, during his time at Denver when he was actually allowed to throw the ball anyhow, was when he's at his best (the 2 minute drill at the end of halves and scrambling and shit) he reverts to his original throwing motion and is much more accurate. I think he is spending too much brain power thinking and trying to concentrate on maintaining the "correct" throwing motion when he's not in hurry up.

I agree with his old motion being more accurate. it's tough to replace years of engrained technique like that. but the problem with it is in the pocket on a traditional pass. that long delay gives the defense time to react. while in college it wasn't as much of a problem when you get to the pro level they guys are 10x faster and 10x better at reading the offense.

[CoreyB]

I bet a friend that Pats wouldn't win more than 10 games this year. anyone thing I'm crazy?

Yeah, you are crazy. Pats win at least 12 games.

[IPD]

I agree with his old motion being more accurate. it's tough to replace years of engrained technique like that. but the problem with it is in the pocket on a traditional pass. that long delay gives the defense time to react. while in college it wasn't as much of a problem when you get to the pro level they guys are 10x faster and 10x better at reading the offense.

ah, so it's a republican party problem; where what it takes to get nominated isn't compatible with what it takes to get you elected.

[Echo419]

Yeah, you are crazy. Pats win at least 12 games.

have you even looked at their schedule?
New England Patriots Football Clubhouse - ESPN
Atl, Cincy, Pitt, Denver, Hou, Balt. IMO, likely losses. then they'd have to sweep the division. they have 0 weapons outside of Brady on offense and that defense was ranked 25th in the league in 2012. with the offense suffering so much this off season I bet it will impact the effectiveness.

ah, so it's a republican party problem; where what it takes to get nominated isn't compatible with what it takes to get you elected.

couldn't have said it better myself.

[stealthee]

Cause the NBA is rigged? Also, sports have proven numerous times over the years that pretty much no matter what else happens short of going to jail, you will always get a shot if you win and/or are exciting. Look at Suh (numerous incidents), Vick, Gilbert Arenas in just the last few years. Broke actual laws (not just fighting with fans), and yet they're all still playing..Well..Arenas was after his. Not sure what happened to him.

So someone who breaks a law should not be allowed in professional sports?

[sergechronos]

So someone who breaks a law should not be allowed in professional sports?

Not at all what I'm saying. The question was how was Artest still playing after the cup incident. Merely pointing out that other athletes have had far more egregious violations, including felonies, and still been able to resume playing because they are talented. So long as you are still talented, teams are willing to take a chance on you because sports are a business. They generally pay a relatively low price for relatively high talent. Low risk, high reward for them. Less of a "lawbreakers shouldn't be allowed in sports" kind of statement and more of a here's other cases where it's happened.

In fact, come to think of it. American sports are disturbingly one of the most accurate microcosms when you think about it. Take Gilbert Arenas gun incident in 2010, if he was a regular 9-5 worker who pulled a gun on a coworker (and said coworker pulled a gun on him) both would be fired, thrown in jail and would find getting a job after release incredibly difficult. Instead, as a star, he is treated much more like a CEO would be for that same situation. A more nameless player (such as Javaris Crittenton who was the other player who pulled the gun) wouldn't get the same treatment. Crittenton was released, signed by the Charlotte Bobcats who released him 3 weeks later, went to go play in China, and now plays in the NBA's D-league.