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    Quote Originally Posted by mehrshadvr4 View Post
    that's exactly what's wrong with this platform. people who can't afford their dream cars or anything buy 3/s.
    What is that supposed to mean ?? Everything on my 3s is new . Fully built with love just doesnt run at the moment .so don't sit up here and tell me every 3s owners dream car Is a 3000gt or stealth . I love my car man. I brought my car in 2010 so I'm still a rookie to most . Its now 2013 and my car has been broke since I bought it in 10. Haven't really driven it . So your telling me I don't have love for the platform after 20,000 plus dollars and I'm still not driving it after 3 yrs of ownership . Get out of my face .

    Besides I said if I could afford one . That doesn't mean I wouldn't own a 3000gt /stealth .
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    i didn't say every 3/s owner's dream car is 3/s. i actually said the exact opposite. there are people here who love 3/s and have one even when they can pretty much buy any car and people who can't afford the supra, nsx,GTR or what ever so 3/s is the next choice for some what fast cars which apply to almost 2/3 if not more of the 3/s owners. i have seen so many 3/s people say the word " I love X car but too bad i can't afford it" that make me embarrassed to own a 3/s and go to other car forums and that's what brought this platform down. full of owners who can't afford to maintain or modify the to be or do something impressive. manufacturers decide to build parts for 3/s but no one can afford to buy them so they say why bother? i have yet to see a beat up mk4-5 supra or nsx , but tons of beat to shit mk3 supras, 3/s or 300Zx and that's because they don't have the cash to pay for their dream cars. i'm not saying you are broke as person, but a properly built 3/s would cot 30-40k and that's how much r32 skyline goes for.
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    I get your point !! And I have to dis agree with you on one thing . You can have a fun 3s with 20k in upgrades . Hehe lol . Most owners dont even have half that invested . The ones that love their cars do.

    Now how about we get back on the subject .
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    Quote Originally Posted by mehrshadvr4 View Post
    i didn't say every 3/s owner's dream car is 3/s. i actually said the exact opposite. there are people here who love 3/s and have one even when they can pretty much buy any car and people who can't afford the supra, nsx,GTR or what ever so 3/s is the next choice for some what fast cars which apply to almost 2/3 if not more of the 3/s owners. i have seen so many 3/s people say the word " I love X car but too bad i can't afford it" that make me embarrassed to own a 3/s and go to other car forums and that's what brought this platform down. full of owners who can't afford to maintain or modify the to be or do something impressive. manufacturers decide to build parts for 3/s but no one can afford to buy them so they say why bother? i have yet to see a beat up mk4-5 supra or nsx , but tons of beat to shit mk3 supras, 3/s or 300Zx and that's because they don't have the cash to pay for their dream cars. i'm not saying you are broke as person, but a properly built 3/s would cot 30-40k and that's how much r32 skyline goes for.
    this is a pet peeve of mine. it's even more annoying when said non-loyalists continue to post on 3/s forums with their NEW obsessions that they have foregone 3/s ownership for.

    i don't get the i6 love though. even the r35 has a v6.

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    I personally am not a fan of the looks of the Skylines....now the r35 is a different story I would def take one of those but I will never sale my Stealth even if it just sits and collects dust I'll pass it on to my son when hes old enough to drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IPD View Post
    this is a pet peeve of mine. it's even more annoying when said non-loyalists continue to post on 3/s forums with their NEW obsessions that they have foregone 3/s ownership for.

    i don't get the i6 love though. even the r35 has a v6.
    it sounds good and has 7 main bearings. the most reliable i6 is 2jz. the rest are equal if not worse than 6g72. the rb has a lot of issue. can't rev too high or you starve the bearing with oil and such and that's even worse with upgraded oil pump. i read somewhere that it's not super reliable either when road race pass 800hp even with dry sump. 6g72 has weak crank issue. upgrade the crank and dry sump and you have a very reliable engines. pit road m's car makes 900hp with stock crank and no dry sump and it runs no problem for hours in the race. RB is like rotary engines. it has so much love that people will tune them no mater how unreliable they are.

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    r32 gtr's go for like 5-12k (excluding highly modified cars) in Japan and here they are not that expensive.. Its a Japans corvette.
    Last edited by mb7050; 02-15-2013 at 07:13 AM.

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    We have an Awesome guy on our side here in cali who owns a billet 19t 2nd gen vr4 and a r35. He had said it himself he loves his vr4 as much as the next enthusiast (hence hemorrhaging money into it lol), but the skyline is just on a completely different level. Always has and always will be...I would love to own an r33 or 34 but I would make the vr a weekend only car and dd the skyline lol. All in all They just seem like a fun, legendary car to drive....and I have mangasms over it's Neo futuristic vintage styling lol (if that makes any sense)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mb7050 View Post
    r32 gtr's go for like 5-12k (excluding highly modified cars) in Japan and here they are not that expensive.. Its a Japans corvette.
    This. 12k is definitely on the high side. 1989 R32 will be completely legal next year. I may have heard from a little birdie that it's possible to still get these earlier

    I'm partial to the R32s but I prefer 1st gen VR4s also.

    I don't understand the comparison threads of 3S vs this or that. Personally, I want them all Need a bigger or second garage so I can start living my childhood dream soon (hellbringer has a good start)...collection of 90's Japanese sports cars...VR4 (check), MR2 turbo (need to rebuy one), 300ZX-TT, NSX, R32 GTR, RX7, Supra turbo(maybe, but would probably go mkIII, popups, FTW)

    It's actually an affordable collection now with the exception of a low mileage NSX. Especially since a turbo mkIV supra doesn't totally get me going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mehrshadvr4 View Post
    it sounds good and has 7 main bearings. the most reliable i6 is 2jz. the rest are equal if not worse than 6g72. the rb has a lot of issue. can't rev too high or you starve the bearing with oil and such and that's even worse with upgraded oil pump. i read somewhere that it's not super reliable either when road race pass 800hp even with dry sump. 6g72 has weak crank issue. upgrade the crank and dry sump and you have a very reliable engines. pit road m's car makes 900hp with stock crank and no dry sump and it runs no problem for hours in the race. RB is like rotary engines. it has so much love that people will tune them no mater how unreliable they are.
    Finally, someone in here that isn't blinded by "legend." RB's are definitely not cheap to mod even though many part options are available overseas. Check the prices on strokers vs our stroker setups. Pretty awesome we can swap in an OEM Mitsu crank and have a full liter over a stock RB25. Or easy swap to bigger engine and another OEM crank and you are 1.1 l over a RB26 even. Our billet cranks are priced well also.

    Not saying a 3S is better or worse. Just nice to see some perspective.

    And to OP, my understanding is that R34's won't be legal for quite a few years (25 year rule). Only the spec 2 R33's went through crash testing by motorex several years ago. Then they also need conversion to lights, emissions, etc. Many were using the crash testing from the R33s to "legally" register other models including R34's but they technically weren't completely legit and the Feds started cracking down and seizing cars. I've heard others register as a 240sx (with 240 VIN) but that's of course not legit. Others were bringing in pieces as "kit cars." Again, possible to register depending on your state, but not 100% legit. My understanding is, the only legit way now is wait 25 years. (Or go with one of the few models that fall under the crash test data and then spend the time and money to get certified for US).

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