Best Turbo Setup

**J-Groove** · 01-07-2014, 08:48 AM

I'm running 19T HLs with 9 blade turbine wheels. They spool great.

But fuel is the big questions.

Right now I am barley working my 19Ts, I'm running pump 93 with a fully stock block and heads. To get anymore out of them I will need to either do a meth injection, E85, race gas or stage 3 heads.

If I had not gotten such a great deal on the turbos, I would be wasting their potential and should have stayed with my 13Ts.

You already have 15Gs.

So with that in mind.

If you're staying on pump gas and you have stock heads, look into some DR650s or going TD05.

If you're thinking of doing meth, E85, racegas tune or upgraded heads, look into some DR750s, 19Ts or TD05s.

-John

**kywhitelightning** · 01-07-2014, 11:58 AM

19T's are a SIGNIFICANT upgrade from 15G's as long as you are willing to run enough octane improvement to run them hard. 19T's will go into the 600AWHP range where I think the highest HP 15G car I have seen was right near 500. That's huge.

Pump gas and sub 450 HP, keep your 15G's and enjoy the money you saved yourself. More than that on pump gas, look into TD05's or T3 turbos up to a huge single.

Methanol injection allows my TD04 setup to run 600AWHP simply by puting 93 in the gas tank. Add C16 and I think these DR750's can make 700. I had 19T's and loved them. They can make the power that 95% of this forum would ever want, need, or could afford. They are probably the best all around turbo available to us TD04 guys.

Jeff

**chooch** · 01-07-2014, 01:38 PM

Thanks guys, interesting info, 19T's do seem an interesting turbo. I'm actually running a GT3076r, which we tuned to MBT on sunoco GT plus last summer, but normally run 95RON petrol. I've got a GT40/42 hybrid I've been waiting to put on, but that project's going to take a while, but will prob interchange it with a GTX35 for road use. Tempted to sling on a set of TD04's as a temporary measure... But its interesting to see what a fun turbo is. Most turbos are knock limited on petrol, so you have to go to race gas or similar to extract the full potential, so don't really see the relevance of fuel. I thought some might like the initial punch of 9b's or top end of the big tubs, but it seems 19T's are right in the middle.

Cheers,
Ewan

**Chris@Rvengeperformance** · 01-07-2014, 03:45 PM

maybe it was the tune, maybe it was the car, maybe it was me.. but 19Ts at 15 PSI just felt the same as 13Ts, only lazier. DR750s on the other hand respond like 13Ts still and make 400 at 15PSI on a stock tune. for me it is go cheap (13T) or get the best if you are sticking TD04 (DR750). Other than that I would love a GTX2863 setup, but can't see ever really finding space to run them hard enough to make them better than the 750s.

**NOMIEZVR4** · 01-07-2014, 04:58 PM

My 19ts came alive past 15lbs of boost. I also made 400whp at 15lbs with pump 93.

**thor'svr4** · 01-08-2014, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Forest Gump

maybe it was the tune, maybe it was the car, maybe it was me.. but 19Ts at 15 PSI just felt the same as 13Ts, only lazier. DR750s on the other hand respond like 13Ts still and make 400 at 15PSI on a stock tune. for me it is go cheap (13T) or get the best if you are sticking TD04 (DR750). Other than that I would love a GTX2863 setup, but can't see ever really finding space to run them hard enough to make them better than the 750s.

Couldnt have said it better myself. 19Ts are great but back when i did my 13T upgrade the 19Ts were twice the price of a set of 13Ts... If i was going to spend the money on a set of 19Ts i would have just gone with DR750s.

That being said i loved my 13Ts. the boost hit very early and pulled to redline. it was enough power to just slightly spin from a 15'ish roll just by smacking the gas. 400awhp at 16psi on straight pump 93, 480awhp on pump 93 + water/meth inj (how i daily drove it), 518awhp on C16 + water/meth.

hopefully ill have some billet DR1000 results within the next few weeks.

**IPD** · 01-08-2014, 11:20 AM

imho, td05's are better for 3.5L engines. on a stock 3.0L, i would stick to td04's.

the reason i chose 16g's and 3.5L was because 16g's are an MHI stock turbo, so (at least they used to be) relatively cheap to replace. 19t's and especially dr750's will cost you big if you have to completely replace one of them. as to the 3.5L, everyone who has ran 16g's on a 3.0L will tell you there's a bit more lag than they'd probably like (at least for a street car). since my goal was (and maybe someday will be again) 500awhp, pure pump gas, on mild boost--3.5L + 16g makes a lot of sense. it could possibly be done in the 18-19 psi range...without even creeping towards knock. nothing for bragging rights by any stretch...but still more AWHP than even a new c7 stingray has at the crank...and pushing close to the RWHP of a c7 z06.