Let's Talk Timing Maps

[familyMAN]

How much boost you running? Billet td05s? Was this optimized on dyno? If so all load rows or just your current max? Thanks!

[J. Fast]

Yep, billet 20G's. Whatever boost I set it to 10psi to 35psi . Optimized on a dyno. EDIT: And a racetrack for 30min sessions.

[J. Fast]

Here's a couple timing maps I transferred from 2-D Chrome format and translated into 3-D. It's much easier to see where smoothing can be sorted when you look at them this way.

99 VR-4 Chrome ECU Stock High Octane Timing Map.



kylightning Chrome ECU DR750 High Octane Methanol Injection Timing Map



Here's the type of base ignition map smoothing that can be achieved with a 3-D tuning strategy.

[Greg E]

ECUFlash has the ability to display maps in this fashion but I never use it. It's neat and all though.

[J. Fast]

ECUFlash has the ability to display maps in this fashion but I never use it. It's neat and all though.

It is a great way to optimize a timing map. You can see where the holes are in the transitions. The smoothing really helps with the driving experience. When you can 3-D trace your timing real time with the laptop open in a live tuning vs. having to refer to log it's easy to smooth and see where the edges of the squares aren't proportionate to one another.


Also, familyman, I'd like to see your timing map. Why haven't you shared it?

[kywhitelightning]

ECUFlash has the ability to display maps in this fashion but I never use it. It's neat and all though.

IIRC, the graph of it is so freaking small, it's unreadable and practically useless. Any way of getting the graphs to enlarge?

Jeff

[Greg E]

IIRC, the graph of it is so freaking small, it's unreadable and practically useless. Any way of getting the graphs to enlarge?

Jeff

Yes but I don't remember at the moment.

[Chris@Rvengeperformance]

Yes but I don't remember at the moment.

I'd love to figure that out too, it is really dumb you can't just drag it to full screen. I've resorted to dropping the resolution on the laptop really low to get it blown up. Maybe the developer could use a suggestion. It is a great feature, but not if you can't see it.

[llabmik2]

Here's a couple timing maps I transferred from 2-D Chrome format and translated into 3-D. It's much easier to see where smoothing can be sorted when you look at them this way.

99 VR-4 Chrome ECU Stock High Octane Timing Map.

You threw me for a loop there for a second. You were saying the 2D maps from Chrome to the 3D maps in AEM. Took me a second to realize you were talking about the graphing feature. As all maps for spark and fuel are 3D in every ECU.

Hell Vipec can do a 6D map. That can take a bit to get right.

I use the graphing feature a lot. Like you said it really does help when you can get a visualization of whats going on instead of just looking at numbers, that and color gradient.

[Greg E]

You threw me for a loop there for a second. You were saying the 2D maps from Chrome to the 3D maps in AEM. Took me a second to realize you were talking about the graphing feature. As all maps for spark and fuel are 3D in every ECU.

Hell Vipec can do a 6D map. That can take a bit to get right.

I use the graphing feature a lot. Like you said it really does help when you can get a visualization of whats going on instead of just looking at numbers, that and color gradient.

The color gradient is why I never use 3D graphs in ECUFlash. You get a good visual of what is going on.