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    Quote Originally Posted by Ange View Post
    No don't know much about that. But why even Count with it? It's just semantics.
    Good lord, what? No, it's not semantics. You, like so many before you, said something like, "but that bottleneck makes increasing this upstream diameter pointless"... that's flat out untrue because pressure drop is a function of length. IC tubing is a LONG non-trivial source of pressure drop regardless of downstream bottlenecks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamVR4 View Post
    Good lord, what? No, it's not semantics. You, like so many before you, said something like, "but that bottleneck makes increasing this upstream diameter pointless"... that's flat out untrue because pressure drop is a function of length. IC tubing is a LONG non-trivial source of pressure drop regardless of downstream bottlenecks.
    Alright. So how much larger piping do we need in relation to the lenth of stock piping then? Say for 550max CFM turbos. Cant find the formula and cnba to search for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg E View Post
    This is kinda the direction I'm looking at going. If I can find a supplier, ill produce and sell a few sets.
    Greg,

    Give these peeps a call

    Manufacturer of High Performance Silicone Hoses | Thermal Flex

    HQ is located in San Diego, warehouse, and factory is across the border

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg E View Post
    This is kinda the direction I'm looking at going. If I can find a supplier, ill produce and sell a few sets.
    I would so be down for a set in black....just saying

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    me too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg E View Post
    False. Ray has always had the DNP kit with a custom set of SMICs with 2" inlets/outlets.
    My apologies. Since It was not listed in his "Dyno" thread I assumed it was stock.

    My main turn-off for SMIC's was the price of custom (Bell, Gene, Alamo, etc), or the fact that the DSM cores were typically beat to hell and full of 1/2qt of oil. IMO if you get these nice silicone pipes going and sell them as a kit with converted NEW DSM cores ($321.30 a pop @ Cherry Hill currently) you would definitely be on to something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mb3000 View Post
    My apologies. Since It was not listed in his "Dyno" thread I assumed it was stock.

    My main turn-off for SMIC's was the price of custom (Bell, Gene, Alamo, etc), or the fact that the DSM cores were typically beat to hell and full of 1/2qt of oil. IMO if you get these nice silicone pipes going and sell them as a kit with converted NEW DSM cores ($321.30 a pop @ Cherry Hill currently) you would definitely be on to something.
    But think about it, you're looking at over $1000 probably for new dsm cores, modified, and the silicone piping then. People will bitch and complain its too much money when they can buy a ebay special for $599.

    I bet ETS would make side mounts, hell they have coopkill's stockers sitting on a shelf, but since they know no one would be willing to pay what it would cost they just sit there collecting dust waiting on either him to come back to pick them up or next spring cleaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbuhrman View Post
    But think about it, you're looking at over $1000 probably for new dsm cores, modified, and the silicone piping then. People will bitch and complain its too much money when they can buy a ebay special for $599.

    I bet ETS would make side mounts, hell they have coopkill's stockers sitting on a shelf, but since they know no one would be willing to pay what it would cost they just sit there collecting dust waiting on either him to come back to pick them up or next spring cleaning.
    Unfortunately that is/was my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbuhrman View Post
    But think about it, you're looking at over $1000 probably for new dsm cores, modified, and the silicone piping then. People will bitch and complain its too much money when they can buy a ebay special for $599.

    I bet ETS would make side mounts, hell they have coopkill's stockers sitting on a shelf, but since they know no one would be willing to pay what it would cost they just sit there collecting dust waiting on either him to come back to pick them up or next spring cleaning.
    Gene's clusterf*ck of a group buy on those intercoolers left a horrible taste in people's mouths. So now when anybody starts a gauging interest thread for "custom SMIC", give the projected price, but have no prototype (hell even example of previous work) to show nobody is interested.

    If ETS came here and said here's what we have, here's the size, here's what they look like, here they are installed... the price is $1500-1700 shipped, I bet dollars to donuts people would line up w/ cash in hand. Look at how many people were in Gene's group buy originally. ETS has the reputation and backing, so the concerns about quality and delivery is pretty much moot. I would say between the two forums, there would be 10 buyers semi-immediately. Well maybe not this time of year, need to do something like that late February early March (tax return time).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbest671 View Post
    If ETS came here and said here's what we have, here's the size, here's what they look like, here they are installed... the price is $1500-1700 shipped, I bet dollars to donuts people would line up w/ cash in hand. Look at how many people were in Gene's group buy originally. ETS has the reputation and backing, so the concerns about quality and delivery is pretty much moot. I would say between the two forums, there would be 10 buyers semi-immediately. Well maybe not this time of year, need to do something like that late February early March (tax return time).
    For that kind of money hell you could buy the welder, the cores, the piping, and have some left over for some blow... The run for new products is pretty much over. It's a 20 year old car. All the money's been spent and swallowed up. Guys still hanging around are building products themselves. There's no money in a product like that for a corporation like ETS. 10 sets is a joke for them. Maybe 100 sets will get their attention. It's just too much effort for $2000 profit. 10 sets is a spec dirt that gets dusted off. Maybe the next F&F movie will revive a slow dying breed. Doubt it but...

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