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It was an absolutely gorgeous fall day today so we decided to take the top off and do a good shakedown drive. Put about 80 miles on the car and the only issue I had was blowing the vacuum lines of my boost controller solenoid twice. A few extra zip ties should take care of that. I think I may end up wrapping the downpipe as it runs very close to one of the coolants lines. I have the line wrapped and shielded, but I think wrapping the DP will be a permanent solution.
Here's a pretty worthless video shot from my still camera. The top was off so the wind noise pretty much drowns everything out. The one attempt at a driveby video was a failure LOL... I blew the line off my wastegate solenoid on the 1-2 shift which resulted in 8psi and all you can really hear is the wind...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEh_uAUbHTs
I'll get some better video when I've got something of quality worth sharing.
Beautiful! You've gotta love those stock supra pumps :)
Sheesh, I have a friend who has a supra that looks just like yours... He needs to take some lessons from you... He's somewhere in the mid 400 range... AemV1... Gt4202... 1000cc injectors...Greddy 4row FMIC..twin walbros... Etc... Gotta find a better tuner :) your car is sick
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Originally Posted by Tsi_shinobi
I'd say his shit is broke! That's an easy ~700RWHP setup.
Veryy nicee :). The car sounds good. Way to sequel the tires into second :)
Here's another crappy video just messing around:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO5xhmenH9I
Took the Supra to the track yesterday for the first time since going single. Still on the bone stock original fuel system, so I'm limited to only 17psi at the moment. Anymore boost and the A/F's start creeping into the 12's uncorrected. I could have pushed a little more, but I always err on the side of caution.
Pertinent mods:
RPS Turbo kit w/ ITS T72
HKS Carbon Ti catback
GReddy 3-row FMIC
Gforce ECU
VPC/SAFCII w/ A chip (all zero'd out - no correction)
Spec twin disk clutch
TRD engine & tranny mounts
Titan diff ear mounts (only the upper part currently)
MT Drag radials
I really went for the fun of it and wasn't expecting much in the way of ET's. As I expected the track was like an ice skating rink. 6sp + drag radials is typically a Supra cardinal sin due to the propensity to wheelhop and break driveshafts and diffs, but I have adjusted my launch technique to eliminate wheel hop at the expense of 60'. Worked pretty well for me when I was BPU -- I was cutting 1.7 60's with a gentle slip. Unfortunately the track wasn't cooperating yesterday, but I was more interested in MPH.
Each run I put a little more heat in the tires and got a little more aggressive with the launch -- no wheel hop at all. On the last my Jared (stealthlabel) hopped in the car and rode along..! No tech, no helmets and ride alongs -- gotta love the south! :bigthumb: The extra weight helped my 60' but I lost a little MPH.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k..._rock_1127.jpg
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpBIs6G0yto
Overall, I'm stoked at 125MPH at only 17psi! Next up is fuel mods, TRD diff, driveshaft and a real tire. The car should be a beastly at 28-30psi. :devil: Looking forward to 10's in the spring. Cams and a few other odds and ends then maybe 9's...?
lol thats nuts.
Here's in the in-car video of the last run:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXCYajdlE2Q
Wow. That's out trapping my buddies 97. I think a greddy t78 and aem running more boost.
Edit. Nvm. Same trap. Still amazing considering the 7 psi less boost
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Originally Posted by VR4
If he's only trapping 125MPH at 24lbs then I'd say his shit is broke and/or his AEM tune is jacked (more than likely the tune). He should easily be well into the 130's and 620-650RWHP.
Is his car white?
Green. John Reed said he has a very conservative tune in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by HellBringer
Hard to point the finger at a John Reed tune. Still... Something is off if he's only trapping 125MPH. Hell I trapped 120MPH on the stock twins in 97* heat at 19-20psi.
Figured I'd up this thread with my latest progress:
Dyno'd 2/14/11 on 3SX's purportedly "stingy" SuperFlow dyno.
Relevant power mods are:
RPS turbo kit w/ 3" recirculated downpipe
ITS Progate 42mm wastegate
ITS GT72 (72mm) watercooled Q-trim .70ar
HKS Carbon Ti (95mm version)
GReddy 3-row FMIC
RKS Powersystems fuel system w/ twin Walbros & 75lb injectors
VPC/SAFCII/Gforce ECU
HKS DLI
Blitz DSBC
Original stock longblock w/ 58k miles
Built and tuned be me.
All pulls done on VP C16
1st pull right off the highway; 21psi and extremely rich:
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...64RWHP_SAE.jpg
24psi:
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...22RWHP_SAE.jpg
28psi (boost issue at 6600RPM):
*NOTE -- I started to have some boost issues that ended up being a loose vacuum line on my EBC solenoid
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...72RWHP_SAE.jpg
29psi dropping to 28psi (more EBC issues):
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...80RWHP_SAE.jpg
Next pull I blew the vacuum line off the EBC solenoid. Corrected that, which corrected the none-user-error issues (see below). We let the car cool down for a bit.
Here's what happens when you forget to raise the limiter on your EBC (blew the only cool pass on the car) -- 30psi (attempted):
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...ost_issues.jpg
Corrected that and put down this:
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...93RWHP_SAE.jpg
UNCORRECTED:
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...ncorrected.jpg
I was tuning for 11.8 at WOT but most pulls after some tuning ended up around 11.4 - 11.5 which was fine with me. I think I could have picked up another 15-20RWHP leaned out to 12.2 or so. My experience is the C16 likes to run at 12 or slightly above. I wanted to err on the side of caution, though.
Switching to a larger AR turbine housing should net another 30-40RWHP. The .70 is hurting me up top, but I love having 30psi at 4600RPM on the street. It's absolutely ridiculous on the street! Next up will be cams, springs, retainers - that should get me near 800RWHP all-boost. I'm considering a 50 shot as the icing to the cake.
TRD diff is installation installation is underway. I've got 27x10.5x16 ET Streets and some 16" CCW skinnies for the business. First track visit is 3/12!
Here's some video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq-jflRymHk
Very nice man!
Hey Abram, are you going to Zmax on March 19? It is a NC/SC dsm, evo meet up going on. I think it's 20 dollars for unlimited runs. I'll be there on my Buell probably, see if it has anything for your Supra :)
Very nice numbers!
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Originally Posted by NCDirtrider249
I might go to zMAX on 3/19. I will definitely be at Rockingham the weekend before, though. zMAX absolutely SUCKS for test n tunes -- the lines are painfully long, track prep is non-existent and they do not do a good job of cleaning up after someone breaks. Every time I've been to zMAX it's been a frustrating disappointment.
Ahhh that sucks...sounds like a giant disappointment. It's a scheduled test n tune on their calender. So if there will be a shit ton of people (which I'm sure there will be now), I might just drive my car out and not worry about it haha
Can't believe I forgot to update this thread...
Anyhey... Short and sweet..
1st trip the track resulted in a hurt clutch but decent times for my first time out with the new setup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw03fWUrKYE
2nd trip to the track resulted in a killed clutch but still decent times:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLONEyC7IUM
Working on the clutch issue and then I'll be back with more boost, less tire pressure and hopefully coming out of the hole off the anti-lag with a lot of boost. I installed HKS coilovers last weekend which should help a LOT with the 60' and overall stability down the track. :bigthumb:
1st visit
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k.../slips_312.jpg
2nd
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...n/DSCN0110.jpg
Business:
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...son/drag_s.jpg
Pleasure:
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...installed1.jpg
Or maybe it's the other way around...? :DevilSmile:
Sexyyy. I love Supras. Cant wait until I can afford one along with the 3000gt.Quote:
Originally Posted by HellBringer
You dont need a helmet at the track first time round?
Ive never seen a 4 lane track, thats awesome.
She sounds wonderful too.
looks like about a 10.5 pass is possible on the current setup--if you run perfectly. nice going. now go hang out with the supra guys and stop making the 3/s owners feel bad.
Man.. I have been wanting another supra latley.. I am looking for a Auto TT Year does not matter. Miles really dont matter. Its going to be for the wife. If you see something let me know man. And congrats on the Numbers!!
mk4 only?
p.s.
jrod, ukyo has an auto mk4 tt he'd be willing to part with.
http://www.3sgto.org/f2/returning-st...ible-1344.html
haven't seen anything on it in a while...but he's still got both it and the vr4--and he needs to sell one or the other.
terrets -- It was a small semi-private event and they weren't enforcing any safety stuff so I didn't put the helmet on. I hate wearing a damn helmet, anyway!
inperfectdarkness -- I think it has 10.2's in it as it sits. There is a LOT of room for improvement on those runs, especially in the first half of the track; honestly not my best driving effort. My primary concern was just getting the car reasonably out of the hole and down the track for the first time on a bias ply tire. Once I tackle the clutch issue I'll be back to put a serious dent in the ET with more aggressive driving. This fall I'll be implementing the second round of mods (cams, springs, retainers, 28" tire, etc..) and will be shooting for 9.999.
jrod -- There are some really killer deals out there right now. Now is definitely the time to buy while the market is in a temporary slump. The caveat to that is those that don't 'need' to sell aren't even listing the cars while the values are down, so finding a very specific example will be hit or miss. I have been soooo tempted to buy another Supra lately; I want another so much I can taste it. But... Buying another crib this fall is cramping my car budget at the moment. Maybe next year!
PS. ukyo has a poor grasp on the market if he thinks he's going to get 30+ for his wife's brokedick supra. IIRC, it has a good chunk of miles and even the mid-mileage 97-98 autos aren't selling for better than mid/upper 20's right now. When the market rebounds, maybe; but no way in hell right now.
PPS. I find the guys in that thread saying the Supra is so hard to work in hilarious. Mine has been an absolute dream -- easiest car to turns wrenches I've ever owned import and domestic. I've done all the work myself with the exception of the clutch (pain in my ass and no 'glory' in that, IMO) with simple hand tools in garage and it's been a very pleasant and rewarding experience. Everything just works. :)
yea.. that alot step for that car.
I found a white 94 TT Auto car that was org a NA but has a GTE swap ecu etc.. for 11k in Dallas.
there is always something wrong with those cheap turboed NA supras. I bought one for 16k while ago and man what a mess it was and 11k is dirt cheap..
Well I decided to bite the bullet, suck it up and buy an RPS Carbon/Carbon clutch with the upgraded Chromoly flywheel. You only live once and life is too damn short to fight with a subpar clutch. :bigthumb:
I hear ya. I am about to just spend the money on 4 MT ET drags with weld draglite rims. Its only money and life is too short, you might as well have fun and do it right.
Nice work.
-Chris
Problem -- SPEC Super Twin Disk:
http://2475-dragzine.voxcdn.com/file...t2-320x226.jpg
Solution -- RPS Billet Carbon/Carbon Twin Disk w/ Chromoly flywheel:
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...n/DSCN0166.jpg
carbon clutches are yummy :D
Its great that RPS makes a good CC for the Supra. We already know their product sucks for the 3000gt. I would never buy one for the 3S.
The older version with the strapped pressure plate, which utilized a reworked OEM PP like virtually all aftermarket clutches, were known to be a little troublesome. The new Billet pressure plates models (which have been around for several years now) are a complete re-design and have been absolutely bulletproof for the Supra camp. Stock-like engagement and pedal pressure and will hold up to all of the abuse you can throw at it.
I don't think RPS ever updated the 3/s version with a Billet PP; in fact, they don't even list a 3/s model on their site anymore... The only person I know that's really had an issue with theirs has been Ray. AFAIK they've worked well for Matt; I can't really think of anyone else that's used one, or at least provided any feedback, though.
they had about 3-4 re-designs over the years for the 3S. Each seemed like a stab in the dark with no real development testing. Many people on 3Si have bought them and almost every one has had a failure --mostly with the bonded CF on the flywheel or with disintigration/shattering of the carbon discs. I was really interested in the Carbonetics double carbon but there really was no feedback on it. I need 600lb-ft capable clutch so I have renewed interest in these double carbons, but I dont even know if they ever built a decent one for the 3S.
Sam
The older strapped versions had a bit of a sordid past with the Supra camp as well. The new billet design, which has been around for 3-4 years now, has proven to be pretty bulletproof.
Carbonetics aka ATS makes GREAT clutches for the Supra -- their triple carbon is a highly regarded. I'm sure anything they make for the 3/s would be of equal quality. However, they are notdesigned (nor will they) with stand up to any drag racing - period. It's a great roadrace and highway pull clutch, but overheating from a drag launch is known to tear them up easily.
After a lot of digging around I was finally able source a new turbine housing, so I'll be replacing the super restrictive .70ar divided housing with a .81ar undivided. Everyone I've talked to with reputable experience seems to think it will be worth 30-50WHP on top of what I've got now, with minimal increase in "lag". I think this should put me over the 140MPH barrier with no other changes. The gains will be even more dramatic once I do open things up with cams.