Can I remove this

[Z16A]

My 6-speed trans is leaky from both of these bolts, my question is are they just bolts or do they play a certain role in the trans. Also can I remove them and use some thread sealent to make sure they dont leak?
http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss195/hyrogomez/IMG_20120925_144358.jpg

[Alan92RTTT]

My bet is that you need to pull the trans and reseal the case.

[Z16A]

It doesnt seem to be leaking from the housings. I traced the leak and it comes from these big bolts.

[Z16A]

Anyone? It leaks from that big bolt that looks like a handle! Can that be removed?

[green-lantern]

They have a purpose, the long one is the reverse detent and the other is the shift detent. You can remove them (might want to have it in neutral). DO NOT take a pipe wrench or something like that to the tall one. You will damage it. You must use a wrench on the base of it. I think I had to grind down a wrench to get it in there. Pick up some good sealant to use%

[Z16A]

They have a purpose, the long one is the reverse detent and the other is the shift detent. You can remove them (might want to have it in neutral). DO NOT take a pipe wrench or something like that to the tall one. You will damage it. You must use a wrench on the base of it. I think I had to grind down a wrench to get it in there. Pick up some good sealant to use%

Awesome thanks, im planning to remove them and use sealant, you wouldnt happen to know the torque specs for them?

[Hans@GZP]

They use aluminum crush washers.... sealant won't do much.

[green-lantern]

Awesome thanks, im planning to remove them and use sealant, you wouldnt happen to know the torque specs for them?

20-26lbs

I can get the exact torque when I get home but I know it's about 24.

[Z16A]

The drain/fill plug is 22ft-lbs so I was gonna tighten them to that.

[green-lantern]

the top one is 24ft.lbs (long one) and the bottom one says 15ft.lbs.

[anyonebutme]

"not-going-to-fall-off N/M of torque"

[green-lantern]

He asked, I had info handy

[Z16A]

the top one is 24ft.lbs (long one) and the bottom one says 15ft.lbs.

Thank you sir! I searched thru my repair manual and couldnt find them anywhere. I know it wont fall but I like to do my work as it was design to be from factory :p

[Z16A]

They use aluminum crush washers.... sealant won't do much.

Im gonna check if my local mitsu dealer sells them. Thanks

[Chris@Rvengeperformance]

Im gonna check if my local mitsu dealer sells them. Thanks
generally you can find a parts store equivalent for the crush washers.

[green-lantern]

Thank you sir! I searched thru my repair manual and couldnt find them anywhere. I know it wont fall but I like to do my work as it was design to be from factory :p

http://www.3sx.com/faq/manuals/Service-Manual-Transmission-AWD-3S-Getrag-English.pdf

Here you go, look at page 31. I don't see the crush washers but that doesn't mean Hans isn't right. I don't think mine had them though. It does say to use sealant on the bottom one but doesn't say anything about the top.

BTW, nothing wrong with being anal about your work. :)

[Z16A]

^ hahaha thanks, went to dealer and the parts guy had a blank stare in his face when I asked him about the washers, he said "the picture on the computer only shows 1 side of the trans" I bought 2 washers, im hoping they are the right ones, if not, I will just use sealent.

[green-lantern]

^ hahaha thanks, went to dealer and the parts guy had a blank stare in his face when I asked him about the washers, he said "the picture on the computer only shows 1 side of the trans" I bought 2 washers, im hoping they are the right ones, if not, I will just use sealent.

use sealant on the threads anyway

[Z16A]

^ Will do, thanks. :D

[KeithMac]

Buy copper washers of the correct size, FAR better than aluminium ones..

[Z16A]

They have a purpose, the long one is the reverse detent and the other is the shift detent. You can remove them (might want to have it in neutral). DO NOT take a pipe wrench or something like that to the tall one. You will damage it. You must use a wrench on the base of it. I think I had to grind down a wrench to get it in there. Pick up some good sealant to use%

+1 thanks, just did the job now to see the results.

[Z16A]

Leak continues but its coming from the shift plate.

[DocWalt]

Shift plate is an easy one... but you have to remove those detents again. Is the leak coming from the shift plate where it bolts to the transmission, or is it coming from the shaft where it enters the plate?

[green-lantern]

Shift plate is an easy one... but you have to remove those detents again. Is the leak coming from the shift plate where it bolts to the transmission, or is it coming from the shaft where it enters the plate?

I thought you could pull it up enough to get some sealant under the plate but I could be wrong. I've slept a few times since the last time I messed with it.

[DocWalt]

You probably can, but I replaced the whole thing at once.

[Z16A]

Have not taken the car apart so not sure if its comming from the shaft, but around the plate its soaked. I looked at the link that G Lantern posted earlier and it doesnt seem to complicated to remove, but the spring and the adjuster thing dont seem like fun to mess with. DWalt thanks for the heads up on having to remove the detents again!

[Z16A]

Shift plate is an easy one... but you have to remove those detents again. Is the leak coming from the shift plate where it bolts to the transmission, or is it coming from the shaft where it enters the plate?

From the shaft, is there a seal that can be bought and replaced?

[BaadVR4]

No. Have to buy whole unit. IIRC, abt $75.


From the shaft, is there a seal that can be bought and replaced?

[DocWalt]

It's possible to replace the seal, but it's a LOT easier to just replace the whole thing. Really tightened up my shifter too.

[Z16A]

$75 sounds good, im going to check my local dealer to see if they still sell the part. Thanks everyone for your help, ill update the results as they happen.

[Z16A]

Where is the guide bolt, anyone have a pic?

[DocWalt]

Sorry for the delay, was looking to see if I took a pic when I swapped my linkage. The guide bolt is in approximately the same vertical line as the two detents you posted a picture of. It's a much smaller bolt head, 12mm, IIRC.

[green-lantern]

No. Have to buy whole unit. IIRC, abt $75.

Where do you get those Milt? Cherry hill?

[DocWalt]

I bought mine from Cherry Hill for ~$75 bucks.

[Z16A]

Got the shift shaft assembly, $86 at my local mitsu dealer. I will be installing it during the long xmas weekend, since its my daily driver. Will post more pics and results.

[Z16A]

new shift shaft
http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss195/hyrogomez/IMG_20121222_125749.jpg

old shift shaft
http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss195/hyrogomez/IMG_20121222_132804.jpg

need guides from old shaft, not included in new one.
http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss195/hyrogomez/IMG_20121222_133750.jpg
http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss195/hyrogomez/IMG_20121222_133654.jpg

random pics of process
http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss195/hyrogomez/IMG_20121222_123007.jpg
http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss195/hyrogomez/IMG_20121222_125621.jpg
http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss195/hyrogomez/IMG_20121222_132721.jpg
http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss195/hyrogomez/IMG_20121222_132728.jpg

now to test drive and see the results. Thanks again for all your help.

[Z16A]

No more fluid leaks! And the shifting feels more accurate and tight.

[DocWalt]

Awesome!

[green-lantern]

:bigthumb:

[Z16A]

Thanks again for all your guys help.