Crush the Vipers!!

[Uniuno]

Everyone is all butthurt about this.

Yahoo! (http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/chrysler-orders-93-rare-early-vipers-to-the-crusher-170043330.html)


Truth is: these are pre-production vehicles. They don't have a proper VIN and therefore can NOT be sold to the public (or any other entity for that matter). Their production numbers aren't even true production numbers since they are PRE-production.

Whether or not kids wrecked them is irrelevant, the schools KNEW when they received these cars that they would eventually be crushed.

If you want to blame someone, blame the gov't for all the strict rules they put on the manufacturers. It was probably a loophole being utilized to even allow the schools to use them in the first place.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Thank you for being a voice of reason.

Jeremy

[NickS VR4]

I'd still rather them be in a collection, instead of crushed. Maybe even used strictly for racing (via trailer).

[Uniuno]

Here's another POV

What's the deal with Chrysler demanding colleges crush their Vipers? [w/video] - Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2014/03/07/chrysler-demanding-schools-crush-donated-viper-sports-cars/#continued)

The last couple (bigger) paragraphs are noteworthy.

[Boost4VR4]

Kinda insane for them to crush 91 of them, even more insane to send 91 out to schools when they were in the crapper financially... Must have done this as a write-off to circumvent the problems they would have with the Dodge Stealth and Mitsubishi.

[Uniuno]

They were sent out a long time before they were in trouble. But yeah, it is crazy to think about.

Last year we "donated" a brand new SRT 300 to SIUC, so the program still exists.

The technology in the older Vipers isn't crazy at all, just excessive in every way, which is what made it the car it was.

[green-lantern]

Is there two of these threads or did my post get deleted? I swear I was sober when I posted in this thread.

[NickS VR4]

Is there two of these threads or did my post get deleted? I swear I was sober when I posted in this thread.

I think it was on Facebook as well.


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[green-lantern]

I think it was on Facebook as well.


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I know I posted in this thread, maybe it didn't load or something. Oh well

I said it sucked, strip it, or race it, anything but crush it.

[anyonebutme]

Story time!

Honda donated a test car to a school, I forgot which school or which model. Probably an Accord honestly, but it wouldn't make a difference even if it was the very NSX Senna tested at Spa. After it was used up by the school a couple of the teachers made a deal with Honda that allowed them to build a race car out of it and run a season or two with it with the class helping.

Then it was crushed. That's the life of these cars. Get over it, lol. Guess what happened to the first 3 Mclaren F1's.

[sergechronos]

I would say that the middle ground would be the best place to be. I don't think that the Vipers are anything breathtaking in terms of suspension set up, and while the body is gorgeous, museums want non running pieces. I don't see why they couldn't pull the engine and leave the engine with the school, send the bodies (at least a few) off to museums after pulling all the wiring and plumbing out of them?

Museums get the shell to display, the schools still get engines to tinker with (although I've got to question how much students could actually repair or replace on vehicles that aren't getting driven, seems like a waste of money and parts to me) and Dodge can scrap all that other stuff. Probably as close to a win/win as you'll find. That said, I think that the automakers being liable for preproduction vehicles in accidents when these vehicles were never supposed to hit the streets (per the contracts) is absurd. If someone violates the terms of the contract and takes the car on the road, shouldn't the automaker then be protected because the contract was violated?

[anyonebutme]

I think that the automakers being liable for preproduction vehicles in accidents when these vehicles were never supposed to hit the streets (per the contracts) is absurd. If someone violates the terms of the contract and takes the car on the road, shouldn't the automaker then be protected because the contract was violated?

Never met a lawyer I guess, lmao.

Honestly, nobody wants a ratty 1G viper shell. Nobody.

[green-lantern]

Guess what happened to the first 3 Mclaren F1's.

I don't want to know

[IPD]

still a better fate than what chrysler did to the stealth.

[Unlogic]

still a better fate than what chrysler did to the stealth.

Never heard of that, got any more info?

[IPD]

Never heard of that, got any more info?

long slow death. it started when they f**k over the stealth as the 1991 indy pace car. the final f-u was designing the avenger to "look" like the stealth and offer even more anemic performance. dodge hasn't had a turbocharged awd coupe since.

[sergechronos]

dodge hasn't had a good car since.

Fixed for you.

Neon SRT4 was about as close as they got. The Viper, while wild and awesome, barely qualifies as a good car. It's basically an engine with some seats strapped to it.

[fullracegt]

They should part out the cars at least nothing would be wasted

[stealthee]

long slow death. it started when they f**k over the stealth as the 1991 indy pace car. the final f-u was designing the avenger to "look" like the stealth and offer even more anemic performance. dodge hasn't had a turbocharged awd coupe since.

The Pace Car fiasco wasn't Dodge's fault.

[ICPREY]

Seems like a huge waste and missed opportunity from Chrysler. Sell some of the cars at an overinflated price to collectors and donate 95% of the proceeds to the Wounded Warrior Project or some other organization. They've sold non street legal Vehicles before( Viper ACRX, Viper Coupe Comps, Drag Pack, ect..). The lawyers are the only ones who lose in that situation.

[IPD]

The Pace Car fiasco wasn't Dodge's fault.

no, but they could have stood up and defended it...rather than being all too eager to ditch the stealth in favor of the viper. it's the equivalent of your defense attorney telling you flat-out "i agree with the prosecution".

[BaadVR4]

no, but they could have stood up and defended it...rather than being all too eager to ditch the stealth in favor of the viper. it's the equivalent of your defense attorney telling you flat-out "i agree with the prosecution".

But your defense attorney DOES agree with the prosecution!!!!!!!!!!! ALL the time, EVERY time. The only question is how much you will pay for the pre-arranged outcome........pre-arranged whether you accept a plea deal or not. All three of the primary antagonists in any legal proceeding.........Judge, Prosecution and Defense.........are lawyers, with far more in common with each other than with the defendant. That's how it works.
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[Uniuno]

Chrysler could have crushed these cars ten years ago and we wouldn't have even known they existed. They didn't have to donate them at all, their tenure at the schools WAS their chance for a meaningful life.