Apple's Next Lawsuit: Apple v. Nokia

[NickS VR4]

And that's why Amazon hasn't been sued over the Fire? (at least not yet, and not likely in the future)

As I said, this never was about patenting a shape or color, no matter how much anti-Apple haters try to make it out to sound.

And regarding the xyboard, yeah it's ugly, but it still functions perfectly well as a tablet that doesn't look like something out of Cupertino..

I'm confused, so its not the design thats the issue. It's the features. So I guess copying "bounce back" was worth $1billion. Because all the other software features were prior art, despite what the jury said.

[stealthify]

Even though that's just one of the many patents Apple successfully defended, the "bounce back" patent is still largely a design choice. There's many ways an OS or program can show when you've reached an end of a scroll (via scroll bars, showing blank space, or just preventing you from scrolling further).

The "bounce back" just added some nice flair that, once you've tried it, makes most other techniques feel cheap/underdeveloped. That's why others want it, but they don't want to pay for it.

[IPD]

wait...

so because apple's target market is too stupid to tell one phone from another--or one tablet from another--that is sufficient grounds to justify them suing their competitors?

...just wanted to make sure i heard that correctly.

[stealthify]

wait...

so because apple's target market is too stupid to tell one phone from another--or one tablet from another--that is sufficient grounds to justify them suing their competitors?

...just wanted to make sure i heard that correctly.

It's not just their target audience, but people in general -- whether they're into tablets or not (but more so if they're not). I can probably spot the differences between a Galaxy Tab and an iPad a lot easier than my parents could, but that's only because I'm constantly involved with this stuff. I, we, us - those that know computers - are still in the minority.

Is Samsung's target audience those that can't tell the difference between an authentic Apple product and those that are not? I rarely hear about people buying a product because "It's a Samsung."

[NickS VR4]

It's not just their target audience, but people in general -- whether they're into tablets or not (but more so if they're not). I can probably spot the differences between a Galaxy Tab and an iPad a lot easier than my parents could, but that's only because I'm constantly involved with this stuff. I, we, us - those that know computers - are still in the minority.

Is Samsung's target audience those that can't tell the difference between an authentic Apple product and those that are not? I rarely hear about people buying a product because "It's a Samsung."

Well since one is found in an Apple store, and has a picture of an Apple on it, and the other is in another store, and says Samsung Galaxy Tab on it, or Samsung something else.... if you buy the wrong item, you are a complete idiot, the XYBoard's design is not going to stop someone that stupid. Thats like someone accidentally buying a Toyota Yaris as a Toyota dealer thinking it was a Honda Civic.

[IPD]

It's not just their target audience, but people in general -- whether they're into tablets or not (but more so if they're not). I can probably spot the differences between a Galaxy Tab and an iPad a lot easier than my parents could, but that's only because I'm constantly involved with this stuff. I, we, us - those that know computers - are still in the minority.

Is Samsung's target audience those that can't tell the difference between an authentic Apple product and those that are not? I rarely hear about people buying a product because "It's a Samsung."

rarely? wow. you need to stop hanging around with only iTards. i know just as many people who have a galaxy as have an iphone (probably more with a galaxy of some type).

samsung's target audience are the people who know better than to fall into the morass that is apple's proprietary bs.

[stealthify]

Well since one is found in an Apple store, and has a picture of an Apple on it, and the other is in another store, and says Samsung Galaxy Tab on it, or Samsung something else.... if you buy the wrong item, you are a complete idiot, the XYBoard's design is not going to stop someone that stupid. Thats like someone accidentally buying a Toyota Yaris as a Toyota dealer thinking it was a Honda Civic.

I don't know what to tell you. How about you go and spend hundreds of millions of dollars to design something, have someone rip it off and make their product look strikingly similar, and then come back and let me know how you feel.

[NickS VR4]

I don't know what to tell you. How about you go and spend hundreds of millions of dollars to design something, have someone rip it off and make their product look strikingly similar, and then come back and let me know how you feel.

That's the name of the game. They made billions, competition comes up and makes it more difficult. Happens in every market. Auto industry, PC market, wave runners, dirt bikes, bicycles, airplanes, etc.

Apple is just being a cry baby and wants a monopoly on the market.

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[stealthify]

I rarely hear about people buying a product because "It's a Samsung."

rarely? wow. you need to stop hanging around with only iTards.

Considering I work mostly with non-Apple based people and organizations, I hear a lot about what people prefer. Most just say "cheaper" - and yes, in most cases, that's not Apple, but very few say Samsung. Don't believe me? Here's an easy social experiment you can conduct at home:

Google Search - 'I love Apple' - 2.8 million results
Google Search - 'I love Samsung' - 990,000 results

What does this tell me? That Samsung needs to step up their game. Make products that are unique, quality and that people truly love and want to stick with. Sure, the haters will call it a cult, but in reality, its just a result of concrete customer satisfaction.

[stealthify]

That's the name of the game. They made billions, competition comes up and makes it more difficult. Happens in every market. Auto industry, PC market, wave runners, dirt bikes, bicycles, airplanes, etc.

Apple is just being a cry baby and wants a monopoly on the market.

In relation to a game, you can either play fair or you can play dirty. Samsung wanted to play dirty. Let someone else do all the legwork, product testing, paying designers, etc and then come in and steal the results.

Sure, Apple, and even Microsoft, have done this in the past. Some were justifiable (e.g. Xerox was never capable or particularly interested in bringing their graphic interface to market), others were not (e.g. when Google got wind that Apple was was working on a mobile OS through insider information, put Google Chairman Eric Schmidt on Apple's board, and essentially betrayed their trust). Here's an interesting read, in case you missed it:

What Really Made Steve Jobs So Angry at Google?

So, in short, Apple just doesn't want others to copy the ingredients that made their products so successful. Just like how the recipe for Coca-cola is so well guarded. If the knock-off brands could make it and have it taste exactly the same, then why buy the real thing? Call that monopolizing all you want, but most creators would just call this protecting their investment.