Apple's Next Lawsuit: Apple v. Nokia

[stealthify]

If apple is the largest tech company in the world, why would any competition out sell apple?

Let's rephrase the question:

"If HP is the largest computer maker in the world, why would any competitor outsell them?"

Apple Now Top PC Maker, Report Says - Hardware - Desktops/PCs -

"If Symbian is the largest smartphone OS in the world, why would any competitor outsell them?"

File:World Wide Smartphone Sales Share.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The answer is simple. You put down your guard and you stop predicting where the market will go, or someone starts providing a significantly better product or service for the masses, you will fail. Apple can't litigate their way out of that equation.

And you read me wrong. Microsoft is not a copier anymore (at least when it comes to OS's). Perhaps that's why they're not in court. Windows 8 and Windows Phone are prime examples that an OS can be different enough. Does that make it better? That's yet to be seen. But I'm proud of them for not taking the easy way out.

[NickS VR4]

The answer is simple. You put down your guard and you stop predicting where the market will go, or someone starts providing a significantly better product or service for the masses, you will fail. Apple can't litigate their way out of that equation.

Exactly my point. The best product sells the best. Apple was on top, now they want to be on top with a weaker product and cry that they aren't.

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[stealthify]

When it comes to sales numbers, another way to outsell a competitor is to sell to a different market population. In the S3's case, that meant dropping the price down to $99 (or even $49 refurbished) to horde up as many sales as you can get. Is that a totally legitimate way to get sales? Absolutely. Does that make it a better product? Not necessarily.

If Apple lowered the price of the iPhone 5 down to $49 or $99 when they first released it, do you think they'd easily outsell the competition? Just a hunch here, but I'm pretty sure they would.

So while the S3 might temporarily be "on top" when it comes to sales numbers, that does not make the iPhone a "weaker" product. That's a fallacy if I've ever heard one.

[NickS VR4]

Price to benefit. I could buy a Ferrari, but I get more value out of a civic for driving to work.

In the end profit is all that matters. Just don't cry that you sell less phones or are losing market share. If they want to sell more, or keep a larger market share, price competitively.

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[stealthify]

In the end profit is all that matters.

You said it, not me. Quoted for when Apple and Samsung announce their next earnings.

[NickS VR4]

You said it, not me. Quoted for when Apple and Samsung announce their next earnings.

I'm fine with apple making more money, I'm not ok with Apple suing all competition to avoid being competitive.

They feel entitled to be the only one on top.

That's like the patriots suing the Giants for beating them in the Super Bowl.

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[stealthify]

Apple suing all competition

Apple is not suing all competition.

Period.

[NickS VR4]

Apple is not suing all competition.

Period.

Not yet, but they are suing essentially all Android competition. Most of the suits involve android functionality.

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[IPD]

that's funny, because as far as i can tell, apple isn't even close to top-dog.

Hewlett-Packard top PC seller globally: Gartner - The Times of India

for the record, your own article says that 10-20 million was the LOW estimate for their legal fees. another estimate was half a billion. now apple can claim whatever the frack it wants on R&D, but if it really is spitting out that much on it--then WTF is the ipad mini the worst excuse for a tablet PC since whatever acer put out last. innovation my ass; they couldn't even put a retina display in it. either apple is cooking the books, or they are incompetent beyond belief. and there's no way in holy hades they couldn't "afford" to beef up the specs on the mini.

failure to predict the market is HOW the market works. survival of the fittest. so your entire argument is based on apple's "clamping down" on "illegitimate copying". i'd love to see how apple DEFINES that term. by every tangible measure i can summon, they have a double standard of staggering proportions.

by the way, apple didn't "innovate" back in the 90's. apple nearly died entirely because of professional mismanagement. microsoft didn't kill them. offering shitty PC's nearly did. they tried to survive on making colorful cases---rather than quality hardware. the software wasn't helping either. lots of compatibility issues (still the case to this day, though they have improved). bottom line though, they offered tepid value compared to compaq, emachines, dell, hp, gateway, and virtually every brand available. i actually applauded the move to bring jobs back. what i DIDN'T anticipate was that barely a decade later, jobs would turn into the antichrist and apple would turn into an army of hellspawn.

now let's be clear here. if apple has a beef with the OPERATING SYSTEM, then it needs to take that up with google. what it has a beef with--instead--is the implementation, which is why it's suing samsung. so your argument about schmidt is largely invalid; sony-ericcson, motorola, HTC and others all make android devices. the argument against android is as stupid as insisting that lindows is illegal because it emulates windows. the reality is, MS ended up buying it rather than fighting it (lindows had the better case anyways). that works when it's a small company you can muscle around. it doesn't work when it's an 900 lbs gorilla like samsung. so of course, apple is pitching a fit.

SHOW me the proprietary art. show me the exact specific "features" that apple claims it alone has the rights to. please. i'd love--just once--for someone to prove to me how apple has any legitimate claim on one frigging thing they've ever done.

[IPD]

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