Apple's Next Lawsuit: Apple v. Nokia

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How the New iPod Nano Copied the Nokia Lumia (Or How the Lumia Copied the iPod Nano)

The next Apple v. Samsung.



Wonder what patent Apple has on this particular shape.

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I kinda wish I went into patent law...

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did you know that stanley kubrick infringed upon apple's patents for the ipad with a movie prop from "2001: a space odyssey" years before apple was ever a company?

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did you know that stanley kubrick infringed upon apple's patents for the ipad with a movie prop from "2001: a space odyssey" years before apple was ever a company?

That's the same argument the Samsung lawyers used in their defense -- did you see how well that worked out for them?

This is pretty funny though.

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That's the same argument the Samsung lawyers used in their defense -- did you see how well that worked out for them?

This is pretty funny though.

star trek also used it decades before apple did. microsoft did it years before as well. suing over a "Rectangle with rounded corners" is like ford suing GM because chevy released a black 2-door coupe.

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star trek also used it decades before apple did. microsoft did it years before as well. suing over a "Rectangle with rounded corners" is like ford suing GM because chevy released a black 2-door coupe.

That's also the same statement Samsung's lawyers and CEO said to try to gain public favor, which you've clearly bought into. This ended up being a big part of why they lost -- it's not all about suing over a "rectangle with rounded corners" - as there are many smartphones that are rectangular with rounded corners that aren't being sued.

If we're being serious in this thread, here's a simple test. Take the Lumia, which is about the size of a deck of cards, and compare it to the new Nano, which is about the size of a stick of gum. If you saw either out in the wild, would you ever really confuse the two? Especially if you were a techno-noob? Probably not.

That wasn't the case with the tradedress issues in the Samsung vs Apple case, and that's a big reason they lost. Even Samsung's own lawyers couldn't tell them apart.

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That's also the same statement Samsung's lawyers and CEO said to try to gain public favor, which you've clearly bought into. This ended up being a big part of why they lost -- it's not all about suing over a "rectangle with rounded corners" - as there are many smartphones that are rectangular with rounded corners that aren't being sued.

If we're being serious in this thread, here's a simple test. Take the Lumia, which is about the size of a deck of cards, and compare it to the new Nano, which is about the size of a stick of gum. If you saw either out in the wild, would you ever really confuse the two? Especially if you were a techno-noob? Probably not.

That wasn't the case with the tradedress issues in the Samsung vs Apple case, and that's a big reason they lost. Even Samsung's own lawyers couldn't tell them apart.

Understandably so. So a black rectangle is owned by Apple? Guess my GNex is at risk. It is all black on its face.

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That's also the same statement Samsung's lawyers and CEO said to try to gain public favor, which you've clearly bought into. This ended up being a big part of why they lost -- it's not all about suing over a "rectangle with rounded corners" - as there are many smartphones that are rectangular with rounded corners that aren't being sued.

If we're being serious in this thread, here's a simple test. Take the Lumia, which is about the size of a deck of cards, and compare it to the new Nano, which is about the size of a stick of gum. If you saw either out in the wild, would you ever really confuse the two? Especially if you were a techno-noob? Probably not.

That wasn't the case with the tradedress issues in the Samsung vs Apple case, and that's a big reason they lost. Even Samsung's own lawyers couldn't tell them apart.

the issue i have is with patenting a design...and not just any design, an obvious one. a rectangle is the logical format for any display. for a portable device, rounded corners are a a de-facto standard (at least since the original gameboy). having a flat, black face is what all touchscreen interfaces look like. yet to apple, these are features which only apple is allowed to use.

and while we're at it, if you're going to throw out that "samsung's own lawyers couldn't tell them apart"--i'll have to assume that's because the images displayed in court were the ones apple doctored to distort the aspect ratio in order to enhance their case. apple has no soul.

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the issue i have is with patenting a design...and not just any design, an obvious one. a rectangle is the logical format for any display. for a portable device, rounded corners are a a de-facto standard (at least since the original gameboy). having a flat, black face is what all touchscreen interfaces look like. yet to apple, these are features which only apple is allowed to use.

None of those features alone lost the case for Samsung. It was the combination of all of those elements, plus some signature styling (such as the chrome bezel around the outside), and the software design similarities, combined, that lost it for Samsung.

If you want proof that a phone can be different, take a look at Windows Phone. That's innovative, yet still slightly ugly (IMO), but at least it could never be confused for an Apple product.

and while we're at it, if you're going to throw out that "samsung's own lawyers couldn't tell them apart"--i'll have to assume that's because the images displayed in court were the ones apple doctored to distort the aspect ratio in order to enhance their case. apple has no soul.

See, now I know you didn't read up on the case. The judge actually held up the physical devices, side by side. And if you want to see a doctored image, take a look at the first photo in this thread. The two products are not even REMOTELY the same size or ratio in reality, hence why it's humorous. The same things the anti-Apple cult accused Apple of doing, they're doing themselves. Cute.

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None of those features alone lost the case for Samsung. It was the combination of all of those elements, plus some signature styling (such as the chrome bezel around the outside), and the software design similarities, combined, that lost it for Samsung.

so let me get this straight.

ford patents:

-black
-2-door cars
-v8 engines

GM is legally permitted to use these...but not in combination with each other.


....this is the essence of your argument here? wow...you should check your iphone for radiation leaks. i think apple causes brain damage.