DeMotivators

[anyonebutme]

Yes, its my opinion that if as a motorcycle rider you decide to stop in the middle of a freeway and you get hit its your own damn fault.

watch the vid between the 20 and 30 second mark. Watch the bike that passes the SUV in its lane, cuts in front if it and then slows down.

wait....so if I'm sitting in traffic........you can hit me all you want and it's MY fault? The law is actually really clear on this even though the enforcement is up to the officer: The rear vehicle is responsible for avoiding a collision, even if it's unavoidable. Say a truck slams on the brakes in front of you, guess what, it's no different than this scenario. It's a very basic road rage incident that you DON'T see the beginning of. It's not about the car hitting the bike.

Think about it. The biker isn't guilty because he got hit. He's guilty because he retaliated for something that is not on that video. Had the rover guy not have continued to escalate the situation (hitting the dude), none of this would have happened, and had the biker not have been a dickhead, it would have stopped at flicking each other off and been over. What I would have done is very simple: hit the brakes when the biker did. Biker behind me would have been injured and it would have been his own fault (failure to maintain control) and the biker in front would have been responsible for a road rage charge.

FWIW, most cars will stop a lot faster than any sportbike. The bike didn't get hit because the rover couldn't stop fast enough.

[DocWalt]

Hey guess what.... The jackass biker is the one in trouble, as it should be. I'd normally support bikers, but shit like these "rides" where all they do is dick around gives all of us a bad name. Not to mention impeding the flow of traffic like that isn't even remotely legal...
Cops bust road rage bike thug | New York Post

Also, this pretty much sums up the average automotive "enthusiast" today...

[Alan92RTTT]

Bikers terrorize family in high-speed chase | New York Post

The attack seemed to come out of nowhere, authorities said. Alexian Lien, 33, of Manhattan, was driving the family’s Range Rover north near West 125th Street in Harlem when the gang, known as Hollywood Stuntz, surrounded the SUV at around 1:30 p.m., according to officials.

A biker pulled in front of the car and slowed down, forcing Lien to stop — at which point, as seen on the gang’s video, the bikers stop and a confrontation ensues. “They take their helmets and they start to dent his car, and apparently his tires are slashed with a knife,” Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said at a press conference Monday.

The panicked dad gunned the engine, striking several bikers — one of whom was seriously injured — as he sped off, with the pack of thugs in hot pursuit, police sources said.
More at link

[HilbillyHomeboy]

wait....so if I'm sitting in traffic........you can hit me all you want and it's MY fault? The law is actually really clear on this even though the enforcement is up to the officer: The rear vehicle is responsible for avoiding a collision, even if it's unavoidable. Say a truck slams on the brakes in front of you, guess what, it's no different than this scenario. It's a very basic road rage incident that you DON'T see the beginning of. It's not about the car hitting the bike.

Think about it. The biker isn't guilty because he got hit. He's guilty because he retaliated for something that is not on that video. Had the rover guy not have continued to escalate the situation (hitting the dude), none of this would have happened, and had the biker not have been a dickhead, it would have stopped at flicking each other off and been over. What I would have done is very simple: hit the brakes when the biker did. Biker behind me would have been injured and it would have been his own fault (failure to maintain control) and the biker in front would have been responsible for a road rage charge.

FWIW, most cars will stop a lot faster than any sportbike. The bike didn't get hit because the rover couldn't stop fast enough.

You are the 1st person I've seen defend the biker. Even on the liberal mecca of reddit, no one is taking up for them, not even the bike crowd. Everyone saying just what Kenny said, giving them a bad name. As well as tons of eyewitness accounts of not just this situation, but of these SAME guys doing this kind of stuff all the time. Running the hell out of red lights, swarming on vehicles, and being general jackasses. Not that I'd expect anything less from NYC. They are thugs, plain and simple.

He did not just slow down. He brake checked the Rover, while looking completely backwards over his shoulder. Clear as day in the video. You think a Rover can stop faster than a sportbike? Come on now. Bitches got exactly what they deserved, in fact I'd say they got off easy. No way anyone can say that wasn't a situation where someone would be justifiably scared of bodily harm, ie a life threatening situation.

Jeremy

[dbest671]

wait....so if I'm sitting in traffic........you can hit me all you want and it's MY fault? The law is actually really clear on this even though the enforcement is up to the officer: The rear vehicle is responsible for avoiding a collision, even if it's unavoidable. Say a truck slams on the brakes in front of you, guess what, it's no different than this scenario. It's a very basic road rage incident that you DON'T see the beginning of. It's not about the car hitting the bike.

Except for the fact the biker intentionally got in front of him and slowed the fuck down for no reason... there was no traffic in front of him. And the last I checked... riding right next to a vehicle in the vehicle's lane is not legal

I bet that law about rear ending will eventually be revised... with all the GoPro and cameras that people run while driving.

[a2j]

[RealMcCoy]

The laws aren't that ambiguous... While I'm only familiar with Cali and Oregon, most states are similar. You are responsible for traveling at a safe distance and speed to stop in time for any hazard that may happen in the road. If another vehicle invades that safe distance, the violation is on them...

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Well, ABM is pretty much on in that statement. You hit someone in the rear quarter, or further back, and it is *almost* always your fault. Very difficult to get out of. Someone popping a squat in front of you like that is dead to rights, especially when it's on video. Insurance companies have started scrutinizing these types of accidents much more due to fraudsters going out and doing it on purpose to collect a quick settlement. There was even an All State commercial about it a few years ago.

Jeremy

[IPD]

why is anyone defending what is obviously thug behavior? brake-checking someone is illegal--plain and simple.

[Mikes2nd]

why is anyone defending what is obviously thug behavior? brake-checking someone is illegal--plain and simple.

only bikers are defending the thugs.

This gang "Hollywood stuntz" has been caught attacking people before.

Yes he on purpose stopped in front of him to beat him in the first place. I don't know how morons cant see what was going on. It was obvious to the police and anyone with a brain that works.

His mistake was accelerating fast and running over the one guy but they might have pulled guns, if he moves slowly the people can get out of the way. That would be my biggest concern is letting them get close with a gun.

mistake 1. Accelerating fast first time(maybe)
mistake 2. Getting off the highway(although some say they were forcing him off and that looks true).
mistake 3. slowing down in any form(the bikers didn't want to become murderers at least).

I would have never let them swing a helmet at my vehicle without my foot on the accelerator(reverse or forward).

Police are still worthless it seems. 5 minutes and not even a show... tons of cops around btw as they were trying to stop this gang showing up.