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    I hate people that use RTV on gaskets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans@GZP View Post
    I hate people that use RTV on gaskets.
    Even when the 6G72 engine manual recommends a thin layer of it on SOME surfaces? The head gaskets do not have any RTV on them. The only places there is any rtv is a thin layer on the oil pump seal, oil filter housing, and water pump. Everywhere else has no RTV.
    Your 1993 Dodge Stealth is one of 6351 that received VIN numbers. Based on the order of the serial numbers, your car was the 5212nd out of the 6351 that were made that year.
    Your car was built in the 3rd week of February 1993. Of the 47380 vehicles made at the Nayoga plant, your car was the 40537th vehicle to be created that year.
    There are 281 other cars that were made with both the same interior and exterior color. There are 779 cars with the same exterior color and 2316 cars with the same interior color.
    Note: The production order is assigned based on the order of the serial number.

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    The service manual definitely doesn't say to put RTV on anything that has to do with the oil pump. You risk clogging oil passages and killing perfectly fine engines. The paper gaskets are totally fine to use by themselves. Only RTV used should be on the corners of the cam bearings where the valve cover gasket lays. Other than that, no RTV for the love of god. Well, and then the obvious oil pan. We run a 1/8" bead and put the pan on immediately. If you let it setup before installing, you run the risk of air pockets developing and then it's going to leak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans@GZP View Post
    The service manual definitely doesn't say to put RTV on anything that has to do with the oil pump. You risk clogging oil passages and killing perfectly fine engines. The paper gaskets are totally fine to use by themselves. Only RTV used should be on the corners of the cam bearings where the valve cover gasket lays. Other than that, no RTV for the love of god. Well, and then the obvious oil pan. We run a 1/8" bead and put the pan on immediately. If you let it setup before installing, you run the risk of air pockets developing and then it's going to leak.
    Ok I will take another look at it and see. I'm not opposed to removing anything, engine's not in the car yet, so it will be easy to resolve.

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    Not a whole lot going on lately in this build. Been doing a lot of wiring and re-wiring. I did manage to get the air to water intercooler and heat exchanger setup where I want it. The icebox gets mounted behind the passenger seat, water pump sits just behind the passenger seat. The trick was the water pump was higher than the icebox so it could never draw any water (DUH!). Moving the icebox solved that problem. The way the hose is currently run (least complicated) pushes the water through the core and then goes to the heat exchanger, fills up the heat exchanger and when it overfills, goes through the return hose back to the icebox. I wanted to run straight to the heat exchanger and then the return would go through the intercooler, but it doesn't provide a lot of space. I need a large amount of space for the turbo stuff and I want to avoid melting the hoses with the exhaust manifolds.

    It's getting there, the pictures haven't been coming lately because of a lot going on and I keep forgetting to bring the camera out.

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    Well, I am going to update this thread with some pictures tonight. In the meantime, I can provide an update.

    Timing belt is on and timed right on the money. The SOHC timing belt is SUPER EASY. The new cams made it slightly difficult to time on the front bank. I threw on as just a mock up of all the engine as it will sit, the crank pulley, power steering, and alternator.I still need to remove the timing covers off the old engine and add to the new engine since the old ones are in good shape. I will need to remove all of the accessories to put the timing covers on, then just add the accessories back in.

    All of the injectors have resistors wired on Pin 1. I will be extending the injector harness once the engine goes in.

    Some work has been accomplished in terms of the wiring. I removed the ABS computer wiring from the passenger side harness. I essentially have just the fuel pump, tail lights, and reverse lights left. So from approximately 80 wires down to 10 wires. I will need to work on the driver's side next and then the wiring for the body and all of the essentials should be wrapped up.

    I installed the new AEM Honda Style FPR on the fuel rail with the adapter kit as well as the new fuel pressure gauge on the fuel rail.
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    Well, it's been awhile since I wrote but I did get quite a bit accomplished on the car.

    The old motor has all of the harnesses disconnected from the various components, I installed the new ABS Delete Kit courtesy of NG Raffles (Thanks 3SX!). I bled the brake lines but it appears the brake rotors are so badly rusted that the calipers can't hold the rotors so I can pull the axles out of the transmission, so on to Plan B. I removed the long tube headers and I left the cat back installed. I think I am going to keep it on the car since it looks better. I painted some more engine components and hopefully next weekend I will have the old engine out of the car and the new engine in the car.

    The only real big ticket items left on the car is all fuel related. I will need to drain the gas tank out soon and clean it out before dropping in a fuel pump and new injectors as there appears to be lots of gunk in the tank.

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    Hmm looks like a thread I have to read since the info at the beginning was sorta good/accurate (except forgetting different sohc motors exist, some having 24 valves).

    I was hoping to go with 3000gt style fuel injectors and install them with a Diamante style 12 valve intake manifold and I guess its a year dependent issue. What intake manifold and injectors and fuel rails ended up being chosen?
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    1994 Spirit - 12.9@106 - 10psi - Holset He341, stock SOHC 6g72 - 280whp 304ft/lb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ondonti View Post
    Hmm looks like a thread I have to read since the info at the beginning was sorta good/accurate (except forgetting different sohc motors exist, some having 24 valves).

    I was hoping to go with 3000gt style fuel injectors and install them with a Diamante style 12 valve intake manifold and I guess its a year dependent issue. What intake manifold and injectors and fuel rails ended up being chosen?
    while 24 valve sohc engines exist, the point isn't relevant to this thread. all stealth/3000gh SOHC engines are 12v, not 24v. if it's got a 24v sohc engine, it didn't come stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ondonti View Post
    Hmm looks like a thread I have to read since the info at the beginning was sorta good/accurate (except forgetting different sohc motors exist, some having 24 valves).

    I was hoping to go with 3000gt style fuel injectors and install them with a Diamante style 12 valve intake manifold and I guess its a year dependent issue. What intake manifold and injectors and fuel rails ended up being chosen?
    Manifold is the stock 3/S SOHC manifold. LIM has a mild port as well as the heads.

    The thread has progressed in a different direction than it originally started as. I would skip to page 3 or 4 and go from there. I had contemplated using the 24V SOHC heads from the 73 or 74 motor however I didn't want to deal with fabricating to ensure the heads would fit on the SOHC block, plus I had the Crower 12V cams already so I decided to stick with what I have.

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