R & R 3S dash speakers?

[j2k4]

Yes, indeed.

Never mind the rest of the system for now, but Steve (2fnloud) and Bob (OhioSpyderman) have helped me to kill a few birds with these stones-


Two each Vifa NE65W-04 2" Full Range Woofers Vifa NE65W-04 2" Full Range Woofer 264-1046, set me back about $64 before shipping-



These were purchased to replace the stock 1G dash-mounts and augment a 2.1 component system I am converting to 3.1.

Steve rooted these out for me, and they share some fortunate coincidences of dimension with the stock speakers and prompted a few chat exchanges with Bob, who offered two of these-



-2G Infinity (1st iteration) units as surgical candidates.

These are different from the standard 1G units in a way that makes them, at this point, and as far as I know, the best option for my purposes, because of-



-the little nubbins that secure the speaker to the nacelle I wish to salvage.

Grinding them down separated things-



-and allowed me to size things up.

The best ID/OD measurements I could take from the empty nacelles and the new Vifas put the speaker at +.010, so game on-





A quick peek at new vs. old, and the depth looks good for the in-dash fit - I used my index finger to index that, btw - but here's what counts-

[j2k4]

Anyway, time for fitment.

I could tell by trial that the speakers needed to give relief to the nacelles right at the points where the dash-clips crossed the driver's frame, so out came the Dremel, and about 60 seconds later, 4 reliefs, a few down-and-dirty thousandths-

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-as you can see (un-cut on left)-



Works a treat:





Final step is to fix the driver to the nacelle - RTV Blue - and set them aside to dry.

I'll throw in a few pics of that process here tomorrow...and here they are - one with the buttress still in place, the other with it removed-



-and the reverse view, to show the extra RTV I laid in to get a little more purchase on the driver because of it's weight-



Anyway, the speakers are pretty weighty, in a tiny-speaker sort of way, and I will be wary of them dropping out until they convince me they aren't going to...I may put some sort of soft shim between the mags and whatever lies beneath them in situ.

I'll polish this up as needs.

Thanks for looking, and thanks to Steve and Bob for their help!

[Jimvr4]

Anyway, the speakers are pretty weighty, in a tiny-speaker sort of way, and I will be wary of them dropping out until they convince me they aren't going to...I may put some sort of soft shim between the mags and whatever lies beneath them in situ.

To prevent them detaching over time maybe you could put a slight notch in the sides of the tabs of the frame and loop a thin wire across the bottom of the magnet anchoring it in the notches.

[j2k4]

To prevent them detaching over time maybe you could put a slight notch in the sides of the tabs of the frame and loop a thin wire across the bottom of the magnet anchoring it in the notches.

Thought about doing something like that, Jim, but if they do come out, there's really nowhere for them to go, and not much chance of damage, so I'll wait, if, as, and when.

In the meantime, I wouldn't mind knowing how well the RTV works, and if my read on what it took to do the job was correct.

[terrets]

Very nice work and research! I would put a soft shim there just because. I think I may have to do this now. Thank you for sharing.

Do you know what the difference is on the 1G's? If not Ill pop mine out this weekend real quick and snap a photo..


Let us know how they sound!

[j2k4]

Here you go, Tret:

Here's the 1G (pre-Infinity) dash-speaker-





This is the speaker that gave me the idea - it is still dimensionally correct for the modification and will fit the Vifas, but reclaiming the nacelle would be a bit more involved, as you can see from the photo.

For comparison, here are a few more pics, 1G on the left, Infinity on the right, then the three of them together-





-and for approximate depth-

[mb3000]

Good stuff!

[Spyder]

I will be using some CDT ES-02 in the dash. If I don't like it I will give those a try.

[j2k4]

I will be using some CDT ES-02 in the dash. If I don't like it I will give those a try.

Boy, if you don't like the CDTs...that's some badass little drivers, there.

[terrets]

Looks to me like I would just have to cut the bracket holding it in.. Unless theres more than Im seeing or they are glued in. Either way, thanks for the idea.