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    need help on decision for fuel controller

    okay this is my first time dealing with a turbo car and i am rebuilding a stealth TT and this is what it has on it: new dr500 turbos, 550cc injectors, adjustable cam gears, and just a few other deletes. I'm sending it off to Pampenas to get his stage 2 engine rebuild and im wondering what would be the best fuel controller to run with this setup any input would be greatly appreciated. This is the only one that ive looked at and eventually I'm going to up the turbos to dr650s

    APEXi AFC NEO Color Fuel Controller*-*Mitsubishi 3000GT*/*Dodge Stealth Parts

    i figured i would put up a list of what i have for the stealth:
    DR500 turbos
    RPS Clutch stage 2
    Fidanza aluminum flywheel
    Accel coils n wires
    k&n air filter
    Greddy BOV
    HKS EVC4 boost controller
    new ECU and fuel pump
    Pauly perl's poly mounts
    new radiator
    98-99 lifters
    2 Autometer ultralight A/F gauges (1 front and 1 back cylinders)
    1 Autometer ultralight boost gauge
    550cc delphi injectors
    A/C delete
    ABS delete
    3SX adjustable cam gears
    windshield washer tank removed
    battery relocated to hatch
    short through shifter
    and that is all that i have done to my stealth
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    if mr. rays building the engine, you might as well let him tune. i think ray is really good at that apexi neo, maft, and the aem standalone. but since the other 2 options i listed are dirt cheap compared to the aem, i,would choose either of the 2. ray is badass at tuning all of those. dont think he messes with the arc2 that much. but u also might wanna get rid of the stock mas and get the maft. so its really up to your taste sir!

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    thanks man, this is probably a stupid question but he couldnt tune it without the car itself there could he?

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    In order to tune your car he would need it there. Ray is a great tuner and an awesome guy to do business with.
    As someone who has both the MAFT and an Apexi Neo i personally would recommend getting the MAFT/GM MAF setup. it gets rid of the stock MAF sensor for a less restrictive GM sensor (helps add a few extra hp) and is a very easy (and inexpensive) tuning option. Plus the MAFT setup allows you to run a open atmosphere BOV without any negative effects. Overall its a great system with more advantages than the Neo.

    you would need this
    MAF Translator Fuel Management*-*Mitsubishi 3000GT*/*Dodge Stealth Parts

    and one of the GM MAF. i would say the 3" GM MAF sensor would be fine for your setup. you can also find them used on Craigslist for dirt cheep.
    GM MAF / MAS for MAF Conversion*-*Mitsubishi 3000GT*/*Dodge Stealth Parts

    If you decide to go with the Apexi Neo be sure to check the software version number. A few years back there was a glitch with the Neo that would cause issues when installed in a 3000GT. Apexi did fix the problem so as long as you buy the Neo brand new from a shop you should be fine. avoid ebay though.

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    i didnt see it listed so im just gonna mention that you'll need an upgraded Walbro 255LPH fuel pump and a fuel pump 'hot wire' kit for those turbos.
    the car should make some good power. good luck.
    Last edited by thor'svr4; 02-20-2012 at 02:46 AM.
    the basic go fast bits...
    forged short block, Billet DR1000's, 680cc injectors, meth inj, FMIC, MAFT, Apexi Neo, hotwired 255lph fuel pump.

    Tuned by Ray Pampena

    Just a fun Daily Driver.

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    The NEO, MAFT, and EMS are all great options.

    Currently the Apexi NEO is on national backorder. Both of our distribution warehouses are completely out :/.

    But if you want a MAFT and GM MAF we have great pricing on those combos.

    For 375 dollars we can get you a MAFT with 3 GM MAF or for 395 we can get you a MAFT with 3.5 GM MAF


    Or if you dont mind waiting until they are not backordered:
    Apexi S-AFC NEO Fuel Controller

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    Yeah I got a 255lph with the hotwire kit and when I get off work I'll take a look around and figure out what I'm gonna do, thanks for all the help guys!

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    with the gm maf and the maft can it be used with a Ypipe that looks like this one?
    3SX Stainless Steel YPipe Intake Y-Pipe 3000GT VR4 Stealth Turbo*-*Mitsubishi 3000GT*/*Dodge Stealth Parts

    Ill try to get a picture of my Y-pipe cause mine is a little different than this one
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    you can use pretty much any alu or steel Y-Pipe. you just need to cut out a small section for the MAF sensor then buy some couplers and clamps to hold the GM MAF in place.
    http://www.3sgto.org/f13/my-custom-d...pipe-4446.html

    or you can buy one pre-made from Dejon
    Dejon Y-Pipe 2-Piece YPipe for GM MAF/MAS*-*Mitsubishi 3000GT*/*Dodge Stealth Parts

    maybe im just cheep, but i would do what x2xtreme360 did and just cut/make my own to save some money.
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    If you're getting a new ecu along with everything else, you might consider trying to find a flashable one and going with the item mentioned below.

    http://www.3sgto.org/f2/so-who-wants...omed-7175.html

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    Oh I already got a new one, it came with it when I got it, everything on that list I already have its not all on it though

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