Dyno Results for Midwest Turbo Connection (MTC) 7659 Billet TD05's (Stage 4's)

**92RT-TT** · 01-27-2012, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by familyMAN

This one is a 3.5 (6g74), race gas, dr1000 at 28psi

Got that updated, that is definitely a better comparison having a 3.5 on race gas. Not a 100% comparison as there are a lot of variable and factors that can affect hp, but at least they are both 3.5's

**JRink** · 01-27-2012, 01:08 AM

Well before any complaining starts with dyno comparisons posted here.... Please remember, the only true comparison is those with the same test vehicle/setup. One dyno model/chassis reads different from another dyno model/chassis. Different conditions. Different setups. Different fuels. Different correction factors, all play into various dyno graphs. Use them for education purposes -- instead of setup ABC is better/worse than that setup XYZ. That is the main reason why my dyno graphs with EVO3s, 68HTAS, MTC Stage2, and MTC Stage4 are all done on my vehicle with minimal changes (if any) using the same dyno chassis and close conditions. It helps minimize the x-factor variables. Which, in turn, gives everyone (and in this case, most importantly, ME, lol) the best comparison of the different setups I've tried so far.

Regards,
JR

**92RT-TT** · 01-27-2012, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by JRink

Well before any complaining starts with dyno comparisons posted here.... Please remember, the only true comparison is those with the same test vehicle/setup. One dyno model/chassis reads different from another dyno model/chassis. Different conditions. Different setups. Different fuels. Different correction factors, all play into various dyno graphs. Use them for education purposes -- instead of setup ABC is better/worse than that setup XYZ. That is the main reason why my dyno graphs with EVO3s, 68HTAS, MTC Stage2, and MTC Stage4 are all done on my vehicle with minimal changes (if any) using the same dyno chassis and close conditions. It helps minimize the x-factor variables. Which, in turn, gives everyone (and in this case, most importantly, ME, lol) the best comparison of the different setups I've tried so far.

Regards,
JR

Very true, even both of those being 3.5's and race fuel there are alot of different factors. More of a just for fun comparison

**Chris@Rvengeperformance** · 01-27-2012, 10:12 AM

nice numbers, but I don't understand why you would want to bring in a DR1000 dyno when it is running 8 PSI less. If they were running the same boost they would be neck and neck. Not that it is a bad thing to be running close to. Very good option for people to use more common manifold setups. A lot of guys could pick up 150AWHP with a few hours of wrenching.

**niterydr** · 01-27-2012, 10:15 AM

My thoughts exactly ^^, running a comparison to a setup running 8psi less boost is not comparable. Understandably that more boost typically yeilds more power, at the expense of added restrictions and strain, but apples-to-apples comparisons need to be conducted on the SAME setup with the SAME dyno (just has Jesse has done).

Well done Jesse, now address those bottlenecks and get back out there!

**92RT-TT** · 01-27-2012, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by 92RT-TT

Very true, even both of those being 3.5's and race fuel there are alot of different factors. More of a just for fun comparison

Again guys I know its not a direct comparison, different boost, different car, different setup. It was merely to show that the stage 4's are in the same league as the DR1000's imo which I dont think is a bad league to be in

**niterydr** · 01-27-2012, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by 92RT-TT

Again guys I know its not a direct comparison, different boost, different car, different setup. It was merely to show that the stage 4's are in the same league as the DR1000's imo which I dont think is a bad league to be in

As they should be!

**Ninja Performance** · 01-27-2012, 11:00 AM

While ultimately the DR1000 car runs 8psi less, in this comparison, from 4500RPM down they are both still building boost so the comparison (sans different dyno's) can be made a little easier. And at 4500rpm, Jrink's car is well ahead of the curve. By what looks like over 100 AWTQ. That is a BUTTLOAD at 4500. You WILL feel and see that on the street.

-Chris

**AdamVR4** · 01-27-2012, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Ninja Performance

While ultimately the DR1000 car runs 8psi less, in this comparison, from 4500RPM down they are both still building boost so the comparison (sans different dyno's) can be made a little easier. And at 4500rpm, Jrink's car is well ahead of the curve. By what looks like over 100 AWTQ. That is a BUTTLOAD at 4500. You WILL feel and see that on the street.

-Chris

Good point. Are there any other high boost 3.5L dyno graphs out there?