Let's talk coilovers

[DG]

No, BILSTEIN coilovers or Stock ECS with GC coilovers if coilovers are a must.

Forget Tein. Forget JIC, Buddy Clube, Megans or any else of that crap.

DG

[HLxDrummer]

So what is so bad about Megans/etc. compared to Bilstein coilovers? Valving? Can't that be changed? Seems like the only real functional parts are the springs and dampers (which consist of what, gas/liquid, piston, and valves)?

You think the handling of a ECS car with S-techs is better than that of a Megan car?

[DG]

So what is so bad about Megans/etc. compared to Bilstein coilovers?

4 Megan shocks, same part numbers, same internal parts - but 4 different force levels.

4 Bilstein shocks, same part numbers, same internal parts, forces match within 1%.

DG

[HLxDrummer]

4 Megan shocks, same part numbers, same internal parts - but 4 different force levels.

4 Bilstein shocks, same part numbers, same internal parts, forces match within 1%.

DG

Oh ya, that's right. I'm not very good at reading the dyno results but I'm guessing even the improved varibility between Megans in comparison to Ksports is too much? Could this be resolved by sending them to the company mention in this thread to have them rebuilt/revavled or is it in the design?

Thanks!

[J. Fast]

Why you take down the "crap shock" page on Far North with all the dyno charts? Big MFR with expensive laywer pay ransome for you to take it down? If you could show them the dyne's they would understand...

[J. Fast]

There used to be a list, and when I say list I mean "A-List" or "The List" of crap. It listed all JIC, Tein, Megan, KSport... blah blah shocks and their dyno specs, full sets. It was an absolute embarassment to any of those shock MFR's. I bet they paid some lawyer to go on a witch hunt to find Denis and that's why he took it down. You guys are ill informed and that's all I'm going to say about that.

[J. Fast]

I can get those Bilstein setups for a fair amount cheaper than MSRP also...

Hey hey, PM me price for PSS9 and 10 /12 H &R springs.

[DG]

Why you take down the "crap shock" page on Far North with all the dyno charts?

It's still there.

People's memories are odd; I never did have a chart of Manufacturer : Dyno Chart like people think I did. But I do have examples of Shocks Behaving Badly and what I consider "behaving badly" really means. That has remained unchanged.

There's no value to naming names because really, they're interchangeable. It is easier (and less lawyerific) to name the good ones instead - because there are far less of them.

The problems are endemic to quality control and design. They cannot be fixed.

DG

[j2k4]

The problems are endemic to quality control and design..

Marketing!

They cannot be fixed.

Not fixed, but avoided.



It's just another of the "wallet-issues" confronting 3S owners.

[Rakuny]

why people are willing to blow $2k+ on 18" rims and tires but won't spend the same money on quality suspension or other parts is beyond me... our platform is weird.
I'm not saying any of you, I'm just saying.