Since Emilie wants to talk about it: her sig. This is a good ol' Drama Thread!

[Emilie@GZP]

Actually Lawdogg didn't "import" the drama. And well Emilie is the one who posted shit from 3si first. I don't think he should be slammed for giving an explanation. I really wasn't going to post in this thread until I saw it turning into bash GZP business practices thread.

I would have done the same exact thing in Lawdogg's shoes, because trust me when I say there are comments made be me in that particular thread that are far worse than what Lawdogg posted above.

I really could have taken much worse quotes from that thread. I found lawdogg's post quite humorous since it is so far-fetched.... then again, most of the posts in that thread were pure conjecture, fabrication, and just flat out ridiculous.

If I wanted to bring drama, I would have posted the entire thread up for public viewing. It was PM'd to the admins and a few individuals when I first put my sig up.

[AdamVR4]

...But I would like to point out, that most of the information pertaining to us and our removal from 3si, is false. fabricated by David (dpfsharkbait). That is called LIBEL..

... our removal was based on absolutely NOTHING. No fact, No problems... they had absolutely NO reason to remove us.... they just did.

Oh, here's that mountain.

What would David's motivation be to make stuff up to ban you?

[Emilie@GZP]

I agree, people can change, but...

10 years ago? Are you telling me the 'unresolved' customer car has been ongoing for 10 years? Did GZP even exist 10 years ago?

GTPro got people to trust them over and over and over again.......... And they never even got permabanned!

GZP has been around almost 11 or so years now.... since 2000 I think. The customer isn't from 10 years ago. 8 years ago. The customer was COMPLETELY fine with our resolution. He had stopped by MANY times over the years, taken parts off the car he had here, chatted with Hans, discussed what to do with the car, wanted to add different stuff, remove stuff, etc. It's not like we held his car hostage for 8 years, telling him to go fuck himself.

The customer you are referring to, carlos, we had been working on putting his car together for him before we got back on 3si. We had bought a COMPLETE stealth twin turbo, to strip to assemble his car with, since EVERYTHING in his car was trashed from being flooded. it was gutted down to a BARE FRAME. ever single wire, electronic component, computer, seat, carpet trim, etc. was swapped out. We built the car from a 100% gutted shell. We would have given him the other car, but he wanted HIS reassembled. We even upgraded him to additional forged internals for his engine, at no extra cost. He was happy with this.

We did not finish the car fast enough for David, who incessantly called, and harassed us about it. Between the harassment from David, and the bashing that was allowed to go on, on 3si, Hans flipped shit on everyone, because we knew, no matter WHAT the resolution, we were going to get fucked over. And we did. The customer got his car, was happy with it, drove it home, and we were banned.

[Emilie@GZP]

Oh, here's that mountain.

What would David's motivation be to make stuff up to ban you?

fuck if I know. He was also PM'ing members, spreading lies about us. I have the proof of that too. David is a pathological lying psychopath. He will NEVER PM/email you, only call... no paper trail with a phone call.

[Emilie@GZP]

I have about 600 filed papers documenting everything. Printouts, PM's, emails, recorded phone calls, shipping and payment receipts from EVERY SINGLE transaction we had on 3si.... if they want proof, I'll be happy to provide it. We fucked NO ONE over. But got the shit end of that deal anyway.

[Emilie@GZP]

Well that's good to hear. I'll keep browsing their site from time to time then

only about 1/100th of our inventory is listed on my site. I can not keep up with it, in all honesty. We just built some storage space, and just picked up about 10+ storage racks so I may be able to organize more, but if you need something, it's best to just PM/call. because 9.999 times out of 10, we have it.

[AdamVR4]

We did not finish the car fast enough for David, who incessantly called, and harassed us about it. Between the harassment from David, and the bashing that was allowed to go on, on 3si, Hans flipped shit on everyone, because we knew, no matter WHAT the resolution, we were going to get fucked over. And we did. The customer got his car, was happy with it, drove it home, and we were banned.

fuck if I know. He was also PM'ing members, spreading lies about us. I have the proof of that too. David is a pathological lying psychopath. He will NEVER PM/email you, only call... no paper trail with a phone call.

This is what I'm picturing, haha...



Regardless... Why not just put the past behind you and put a 3S in your sig?

[Emilie@GZP]

Thanks Alan. I'll gladly delete this thread once Emilie removes her defamatory sig pic and refrains from any and all other references to me.

I really didn't want this thread to be about GZP's business practices at all. As I alluded to in my post, I really do think Hans is infinitely capable of great things. So, if GZP is doing well here I think that's awesome, and my commentary shouldn't be read to reflect poorly upon them now.

All I wanted to do was give everyone the context of Emilie's slander towards me, to show how she edited it down and allow you to draw inferences according to the thing as a whole.

it's not slander, it's libel. And it's not considered libelous unless it causes you personal/emotional/and or financial harm. I have done none of the above. It also has to be proven to be false.... nothing I posted is false, it is your OWN words.

And if you would like me to pull up all the libelous crap that was spewed about Hans and I, I would be happy to. Then I will be THRILLED to take you all to court over it.

[eljefefx]

Jesus fucking Christ...

[AdamVR4]

google: The difference between slander and libel is that libel is the written or otherwise published, public defamation of a person or entity such as an organization or company, while slander is the spoken false defamation of a person or entity.

haha