Apple Caught Photoshopping Galaxy Tab 10.1 to Look Like iPad for Lawsuit

[stealthify]

apple photoshops competitor products to appear more "similar" to apple products, then seeks a preliminary injunction to keep them from being sold in the first place.

do us all a favor and take steve's dick out of your mouth.

No need to insinuate that I'm blowing Jobs, Thadd. I figured you were above that, but then again this isn't the first time you've used that insult with the people you don't agree with. Let's keep this civil.

And while seeking a preliminary injunction was indeed what Apple was shooting for (as is the case with ALL significant patent disputes), the consequences of perjury is likely not worth the temporary pay-out. I shouldn't have to tell you this, it's common sense.

[IPD]

No need to insinuate that I'm blowing Jobs, Thadd. I figured you were above that, but then again this isn't the first time you've used that insult with the people you don't agree with. Let's keep this civil.

And while seeking a preliminary injunction was indeed what Apple was shooting for (as is the case with ALL significant patent disputes), the consequences of perjury is likely not worth the temporary pay-out. I shouldn't have to tell you this, it's common sense.

it's one thing if you want to smack someone on the wrist for infringing on a patent. it's quite another if you decide that you're going to seek a preliminary injunction against them--thereby eliminating any hope of revenue they would need to fight you in court.

i'm convinced that apple can't even keep track of the lawsuits IT HAS ITSELF FILED against other companies. as i mentioned earlier, the patents they're citing are so vague, that it's akin to ford suing GM because GM also decided to make a black 2-door coupe.

furthermore, it has been noted on at least one occasion that a judge has granted an injunction on behalf of apple's request--WITHOUT EVER EXAMINING THE MATERIALS IN QUESTION...IN PERSON.

worse, my taxpayer dollars are going to pay for the courts that get bogged down with this tripe. apple is WASTING MY TAXPAYER MONEY by bring copious amounts of frivolous lawsuits to court. and yet, every itard you talk to screams that "apple innovates" and "everyone else copies".

that's funny. better than 50% of everything apple has ever done was "stolen" from xerox. FACT. apple was NOT the first to put a touchscreen phone on the market. FACT. apple was not the first to put a tablet PC on the market. FACT. you can go through their entire company history, and i'll bet you $5 that you'll never find one single thing brought to market that someone else didn't think of or do first.

apple is pissed because it's NOT good at innovating; it's good at popularizing. and you can't patent that. trending is trending, the market shapes itself to what consumers want. maybe the prada didn't popularize touchscreen smartphones, but it did predate the iphone. sega watched consumers flock to a d-pad over a joystick, and they followed that trend. they did NOT clone the NES pad, they made their own controller. (i know, i've owned a master-system).

apple is flinging out lawsuits left and right and asking for rediculous shit like PRELIMINARY injunctions, because it doesn't have any room to stand on. nothing about its case holds any water. just as always, a competitor will catch on to the trends apple discovers, and undoubtedly does a better job of catering to that trend. there can't be any other outcome, because apple maintains a draconian chokehold over everything and anything apple-related.

apple is full of fail. it has been since the 90's. it started to go downhill when it started encouraging its users to start sniffing their own pretentious farts.

glad to see your reality-distortion-device is still properly functioning there, shaun. i'm sure steve is happy about that.

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it's one thing if you want to smack someone on the wrist for infringing on a patent. it's quite another if you decide that you're going to seek a preliminary injunction against them--thereby eliminating any hope of revenue they would need to fight you in court.

i'm convinced that apple can't even keep track of the lawsuits IT HAS ITSELF FILED against other companies. as i mentioned earlier, the patents they're citing are so vague, that it's akin to ford suing GM because GM also decided to make a black 2-door coupe.

This clearly has nothing to do with only wanting to slap your competitors on the wrist for making a product that is so blatantly similar to yours, this is about protecting your investment (design research, intellectual property, etc), and not letting another company leech on your success. Just like any other patent dispute (or more specifically any trade dress dispute), the prosecutor in these cases won't submit to copycats, especially obvious ones. The Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab might as well be renamed Samsung Chinese iPhone Knockoff 4 and Samsung Chinese iPad Knockoff 2. The engineers of these products likely rushed these products to the market to compete with the iPhones/iPad, and figured they'd deal with the legal ramifications later. That's fine.

On that note, I assure you that Apple can keep track of the lawsuits it has itself filed against other companies. The point you refuse to acknowledge is that it's NOT just Apple suing others, its EVERYONE suing eachother:

The Knowledge Effect | UPDATE: Mobile Patent Suits - Graphic of the Day



We're at a very interesting point in technological history. Mobile devices are the wave of the future, we're just starting down this road, and ALL of these companies know this. Microsoft, Google, Apple, etc. This is why Microsoft and Apple bought up the Nortel patents, this is why Google bought Motorola (for their key patents). This is an all-out war, slapping eachother on the wrist is the least of what these companies would like to do to eachother in order to get on top.

worse, my taxpayer dollars are going to pay for the courts that get bogged down with this tripe. apple is WASTING MY TAXPAYER MONEY by bring copious amounts of frivolous lawsuits to court. and yet, every itard you talk to screams that "apple innovates" and "everyone else copies".

I'm with you on the point that I don't want my taxpayer dollars going towards frivolous lawsuits, but I, along with many, attribute this problem to the current patent system - it's broken. In the meantime you can continue to blame Apple because you hate fanboys, Jobs and Apple's lineup of products, but really you're wasting your time. There are much more significant problems at play here.

that's funny. better than 50% of everything apple has ever done was "stolen" from xerox.

Your history is mixed up. Apple bought the rights to Alto GUI from Xerox, which is the way it should be done. Xerox had technology that they had no idea what to do with, and Apple made it a success. You say this like it's a crime, I say this is a skill any company could only wish to possess. And make no mistake, taking a flawed idea and making it work is indeed a skill. But you should still play by the rules of the game, and if that means buying out the technology/company, or licensing it, that is the way to go. This is NOT what Samsung is doing.

After reading all of your posts about how Apple copies this, and Apple copies that, I couldn't help but to think of an intriguing series that you may be interested in checking out (if not to just expand your hate portfolio). While you may be just a tad bias towards Apple, if you're going to hate them for 'copying and being more successful,' I invite you to check it out:

Watch | Everything Is a Remix



And with that in mind, I don't blame Samsung for copying - however, I also don't take pity on them for being called out for it. But I'm not joining your hate brigade on trying to single Apple out for taking issue with it. So while you think I'm solely on the Apple bandwagon, I'm here to correct you by letting you know I'd be saying the same exact thing if this thread was titled 'Kodak suing RIM over stupid patents' or 'Sony suing LG', etc.

[DocWalt]

So since Samsung "copied" and I don't feel like reading the lawsuit... What exactly did they copy?

[stealthify]

So since Samsung "copied" and I don't feel like reading the lawsuit... What exactly did they copy?

There's a lot of fluff tossed in on both sides (since they are actively suing eachother), but in regards to the trade dress issue, the two specific products that conflict enough visually to warrant the court's attention include:

Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 vs iPad 2


and

Samsung Galaxy S vs the iPhone 3G/3GS


Apple claims that the Galaxy lineup of products resembles their existing design too closely to be a coincidence. Whether this is true will be left up to the courts to decide, and of course everyone (whether you're anti-Apple or not) has differing opinions on how similar is 'too similar' to be considered a copycat.

In my opinion, Apple shot itself in the foot by striving to make too minimalistic of a design with their iPhones and iPads - which makes it a very easy target for people like Tyler here to scoff at and say you can't patent a black rectangle with rounded corners and a screen. But apparently the patent registration process, in all it's wonderfulness, begs to differ. Hence why these patents were accepted in the first place, and why I think the current patent system is flawed to begin with.

Had Apple been the Lamborghini of the mobile device platform when it came to their designs, this would have likely been less of an issue.

[DocWalt]

So Apple may as well sue every other tablet maker for the same reason... /facepalm Go patent system!

[Mikes2nd]

Google wants judge to dismiss four charges in Oracle suit - smartphones, patent, oracle, legal, intellectual property, Google, consumer electronics, Android - Techworld

rofl and I want a billion dollars... Google is just trying anything it can to squirm out of this... it isnt going to work. It can't let it go to trial so its squirming like a worm. I don't blame them because they are busted and busted bad.

But thats another joke... Just like they filed multiple times to try to get rid of the incriminating evidence... It didn't work and won't work this time.

[BigTyla]

The fact of the matter is that Apple doctored these photos in an attempt to MISLEAD the court. That in itself should be a crime. If the two devices really looked that similar, why did they decide to doctor the photos? That just reeks of desperation and I can't believe that Apple wasn't advised that the suit on face value might be too close to call, giving Apple an incentive to doctor the photos for good measure.

Lawyers = scum of the Earth, just barely behind politicians.

[DocWalt]

rofl and I want a billion dollars... Google is just trying anything it can to squirm out of this... it isnt going to work. It can't let it go to trial so its squirming like a worm. I don't blame them because they are busted and busted bad.

But thats another joke... Just like they filed multiple times to try to get rid of the incriminating evidence... It didn't work and won't work this time.

/facepalm

[stealthify]

The fact of the matter is that Apple doctored these photos in an attempt to MISLEAD the court. That in itself should be a crime. If the two devices really looked that similar, why did they decide to doctor the photos? That just reeks of desperation and I can't believe that Apple wasn't advised that the suit on face value might be too close to call, giving Apple an incentive to doctor the photos for good measure.

Apple is welcome to address this. Or, rather, they already did - in the very article you linked:

In the text, Apple confirms that the Galaxy S has "some non-identical elements, such as the slightly larger dimensions."

If you read the lawsuit, or even the first 25 pages of it, you'll see that the size of the device is not what's in question here.

I'm with you on the lawyers and politicians statement though, at least most of them.