The Official 2011 NCAA College Football Thread

**AdamVR4** · 09-08-2011, 04:09 PM

So Baylor (and the rest of the B12 basically) has refused to waive their rights to sue over A&M leaving the conference they committed to just a few months ago. Why should they? Baylor (as well as K-State and Iowa State) stands to lose a HUGE amount of money and prestige if the B12 collapses. It's the responsibility of the heads of those universities to do everything they can to prevent A&M from leaving.

Hilarious... A&M has absolutely no control over where it ends up at this point.

**HilbillyHomeboy** · 09-08-2011, 05:23 PM

From what I've read (on espn.com as of late last night) the "(and the rest of the B12 basically)", is everyone BUT Oklahoma.

In any event, hurry the hell up, I'm tired of all this rumor of WV to the SEC. If they take aTm, they'll have to take another according to ncaa bylaws for a round robin conference championship. I'm happy where we are, but I'm positive we would leap at the chance for a SEC invite. I would not be mad, bro.

Jeremy

**HilbillyHomeboy** · 09-08-2011, 06:02 PM

Baylor Bears won't budge on waiving legal rights until Oklahoma Sooners decide on future, source says - ESPN

Meanwhile, Texas and Texas Tech made clear Thursday that each has waived its legal right to sue the SEC and Texas A&M over the Aggies' pending departure, per the SEC's request. Oklahoma and Oklahoma State have waived their rights as well.

An Oklahoma State official said the school "has no intention of suing the SEC or A&M."

"Speculative reports using unnamed sources implying Oklahoma State University would join others in a lawsuit against the SEC and Texas A&M were incorrect," said director of communications Gary Shutt.

On the other side, Kansas associate athletic director Jim Marchiony told ESPN.com that Kansas hasn't waived its rights to sue. Iowa State has not waived it's rights either.

"We are not aware of any SEC demand directed at Iowa State University," Iowa State spokesman John McCarroll said.

So much rumor talk right now...confusing as hell.

I don't blame Baylor, and the other small fish for raising hell. They stand to lose a lot. The thing I keep coming back to is it really makes it look like the SEC is meh about aTm. Basically, we'll take you, but only on this condition and we won't do squat to help you. If you can't get it done, that's not our fault(save face).

Jeremy

**Mikes2nd** · 09-08-2011, 06:19 PM

oh yeah... well this isnt rumor...

Earlier this evening, Notre Dame and Texas jointly presented the Big Ten Conference with their proposed terms of entry into the conference. These terms resulted from lengthy discussions among both schools and the Big Ten over the past several months.

The major items include:
1. The preservation of an eight game (plus championship) conference football schedule. Both ND and Texas wish to preserve rivalries with non-Big Ten universities on a regular basis. This would require the Big Ten to abandon its current plans of a 9 game conference schedule.
2. The staggering of the schedule to allow for mid-season scheduling with non-conference football opponents.
3. The preservation of the status quo conference makeup until approximately 2014, unless the Big XII fails to retain key (NOT including A&M) conference members. This will provide the member schools, acting in unison, with the greatest leverage negotiating ongoing television contracts, particularly with ESPN.
4. Should Texas depart the conference for the Big Ten before ND due to the further disintegration of the Big XII, ND will remain independent until approximately 2014
5. The Longhorn Network would remain independent until approximately 2014, at which point the network would become a part of an expanded Big Ten Network (specifically referred to as "BTN2"), likely either in partnership with Fox, NBC, or less likely ABC

The Big Ten just wrapped up a meeting to initially consider all of the terms presented by the schools, including the aforementioned.

Notably, there is a general discontent with the reporting of the situation by ESPN with specific regard to Texas. ESPN has, for self-serving purposes, drastically exaggerated the lean of Texas to the Pac12 conference in nearly all commentary. ESPN has essentially waged a propaganda campaign to drive support among the Texas stakeholders to the Pac12 conference. ESPN has gone so far as to attempt to accelerate the disintegration of the Big XII to pressure Texas into making an immediate conference change decision. Texas has steadfastly resisted change, and will do so until the appropriate time occurs for Texas to stand in a strong position to renegotiate television contracts, including with ESPN.

In reality, the preference expressed by Texas' relevant leadership is to depart the Big XII for the Big Ten at the time that gives Texas the greatest leverage in negotiating a new television rights deal. The Big Ten and Texas agreed that Texas should do what is best for Texas, which they also both agree is a move by Texas to join the Big Ten Conference. Delaney's top priority has been to create an environment for Texas and Notre Dame to join the conference on mutually benefical terms.

Notre Dame has an interest in preserving its traditional rivalries, three of which occur already in the Big Ten, and creating a new national rivalry with a traditional powerhouse. The Big Ten believes that ND prefers independence, but realizes that it will soon have no choice but to join a conference. The Big Ten also believes that ND is trying to position itself so that if it must join a conference, it does so on the most favorable terms possible. Hence the return to the 8 game schedule and a protected game with national power Texas. The Big Ten will attempt to create a mutually beneficial environment for ND that allows it to preserve a great deal of independence to retain all its traditional rivalries within the conference context.

The initial mood at the Big Ten to the terms provided by the two schools is "receptive."

**AdamVR4** · 09-08-2011, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by HilbillyHomeboy

Baylor Bears won't budge on waiving legal rights until Oklahoma Sooners decide on future, source says - ESPN

So much rumor talk right now...confusing as hell.

I don't blame Baylor, and the other small fish for raising hell. They stand to lose a lot. The thing I keep coming back to is it really makes it look like the SEC is meh about aTm. Basically, we'll take you, but only on this condition and we won't do squat to help you. If you can't get it done, that's not our fault(save face).

Jeremy

Exactly. The SEC wants Texas in their already rich recruiting territory in order to strength their MNC monopoly, but they don't need it.

The funniest thing about this whole situation to me is that there's nothing preventing every team in the SEC from launching their own "LHN" to show case their schools and broadcast 1-2 games a season.

And just for lulz, I've got NCAA 2012 for the xbox and in my 2nd season, I threw A&M and Mizzou into the SEC. They combined to go 1-15 (or was it 1-17?) in conference play.

**HilbillyHomeboy** · 09-08-2011, 07:59 PM

Post your source, Mike. I don't see anything about that, anywhere.

Jeremy

**Mikes2nd** · 09-08-2011, 10:12 PM

speculation, but it all over the boards... wierd actually. its on bleacher they are talking about the postings. I think its funny but theres been some "anti tweets"

but I would have to think other teams are shoring up their options due to A&M leaving(one way or another)... It up to oklahoma and I'm sure they are not sitting on their hands(they are probably on the phone right now)