Calling all owners who have put in large stereo's in their 3S.

[Streamln1]

I was actually suprized when they showed me what happens on a clipping amp, I think it was either RF or Orion that was doing a training on it years ago. They showed the mathmatical formula and this amp was producing nearly triple is max rated output of pure square wave, right there on a scope. Cool stuff. Clipping is fine as long as its within the speakers ability to handle it.

[spaceace60]

im pretty sure im in the top 2% of largest 3s systems lol! and imo caps are WAY over rated a highend battery will do 10 times more for your upgrade optimas look cool and are way over rated/over priced as well! a company called Remy 800)455-7400((i believe same as deka?)look up online have a model(9134m)its a close out now at $90 that match most $300 or more batts!!(dbl check for fit though)im lookin to get one myself! also if u can afford get a Mechman alt 220a L series(ours are pretty stout at 110a but these are the most bang for your audio buck!)as im running 5 amps in my arsenol! any other questions just give me a call Jim(814)493-3173 been doin car audio for 25yrs!

[SUTHNR]

Wow, that last post was hard to digest...

To the OP, have any pictures been floated around of you build? In all the banter about watts and amps, I think I missed what you ultimately went with

EricB

[2fnloud]

Eric here is my list of goodies:

Pioneer AVH-P6000DVD (H/U)
Pioneer AVG-VDP1 (cool vehicle performance display)
Pioneer DEQ-P8000 (5.1 processor, Sub X-over & T/A)
Pioneer CD-BTB200 (bluetooth interface)
Pioneer XDV-P9 (DVD Changer) if it is compatible
Pioneer CDX-680 (CD Changer)
Pioneer iPod chord
Orion HCCA-D2400 (1200 x1 at 1 Ohm, subs)
Orion HP-4800 (100x4 at 4 Ohms, bridged for fronts)
Orion HP-4800 (100x4 at 4 Ohms, center and rear)
Orion MAXBASS (To see if I can get the center to sound lower with "psychoacoustics")
AudioControl DQS (30 band digital +2 band Para. E/Q)
AudioControl DDC (remote display face for DQS)
Phoenix Gold Bass C.U.B.E. (sub-sonic filter)
Tang Band W8-1363SB 8" subwoofer (sub x4)
Eclipse SC8365 3-way component speakers (Front)
Eclipse SP6900 6x9 2-way speakers (Rear)
Tang Band W23-1287SI 2"x3" speakers (center x2)

Build log here:
Steve's 5.1 mobile theater "Stealth" install.

[spaceace60]

Hey thats funny i got the exact setup(Kickers) for my rear fills except mine are the Cvt 2ohm(model) this months audio car winner(the orange sl) may look better but im safe to say mine sounds better!(its nice for a system to look good but how does it sound?)
not to brag but my Vr4 is completely sound proofed,The list of Equipment is an Alpine W910 Hu,Alpine 701 w701 rux controller(processor,x-over,Eq,time alighnment,bla bla!)on optical cables all Phoenix gold M100,M50,M44,M25 amps! (except my huge Us amp on 2x12 Alpine type X subs!) Mechman 240a alt(big3 grounding done),heavy duty Battery upfront,agm batt in rear,3x2.5 caps(soon removing as caps are a waste of time & money) pioneer stage4 2and5/8" mids(don't laugh at these pioneers $450 a pr little guys.)as they fit perfect in stock dash spots and believe it or not are my favorite pieces in the whole system! Also keep in mind these are mids(built like tanks!) not tweeters! and they seriously F'n rock!(loud and clear!) I have a pr of $750 6.5" SR6500 Polks in my doors and those little mids keep right up with my big $ Polks! and ad soooo much to the front sound staging!(after hearing them i couldn't be w/o them and of course got the Kicker Cvt 6.5 mini subs(set at 63hz-300hz low/mid) in rear and their not doin squat? (biggest let down of my whole system! Ya i'm not sure if it's a cancellation(big subs clashing w/them?) issue or what had them completely sealed incl the port tube(stock 6x9 enclosures) closed off ect but the kickers are suppose to be like 150 rms/300pk but no volume at all?(i've heard louder ipods?) Btw how are your Kickers doin in your setup?? Hey 2F'N loud how r you commin along on your stereo install?(Jim aka spaceace60 in Pa.!) Btw I am always buying horse trading audio gear infact my 2x12 sub box is up for grabs!,($120) hell between labor/materials i'm givin it away! for $165 they can have all 3 power caps!(thats $120 in caps free) it's not ez to get one to fit just right(rear seat lip over box ect ect) thanks! love seen different installs in these cars!

[2fnloud]

I am waiting on my amps to be released.

Hey thats funny i got the exact setup(Kickers) for my rear fills except mine are the Cvt 2ohm(model) this months audio car winner(the orange sl) may look better but im safe to say mine sounds better!(its nice for a system to look good but how does it sound?)
not to brag but my Vr4 is completely sound proofed,The list of Equipment is an Alpine W910 Hu,Alpine 701 w701 rux controller(processor,x-over,Eq,time alighnment,bla bla!)on optical cables all Phoenix gold M100,M50,M44,M25 amps! (except my huge Us amp on 2x12 Alpine type X subs!) Mechman 240a alt(big3 grounding done),heavy duty Battery upfront,agm batt in rear,3x2.5 caps(soon removing as caps are a waste of time & money) pioneer stage4 2and5/8" mids(don't laugh at these pioneers $450 a pr little guys.)as they fit perfect in stock dash spots and believe it or not are my favorite pieces in the whole system! Also keep in mind these are mids(built like tanks!) not tweeters! and they seriously F'n rock!(loud and clear!) I have a pr of $750 6.5" SR6500 Polks in my doors and those little mids keep right up with my big $ Polks! and ad soooo much to the front sound staging!(after hearing them i couldn't be w/o them and of course got the Kicker Cvt 6.5 mini subs(set at 63hz-300hz low/mid) in rear and their not doin squat? (biggest let down of my whole system! Ya i'm not sure if it's a cancellation(big subs clashing w/them?) issue or what had them completely sealed incl the port tube(stock 6x9 enclosures) closed off ect but the kickers are suppose to be like 150 rms/300pk but no volume at all?(i've heard louder ipods?) Btw how are your Kickers doin in your setup?? Hey 2F'N loud how r you commin along on your stereo install?(Jim aka spaceace60 in Pa.!) Btw I am always buying horse trading audio gear infact my 2x12 sub box is up for grabs!,($120) hell between labor/materials i'm givin it away! for $165 they can have all 3 power caps!(thats $120 in caps free) it's not ez to get one to fit just right(rear seat lip over box ect ect) thanks! love seen different installs in these cars!

[futurevr4man]

Hey thats funny i got the exact setup(Kickers) for my rear fills except mine are the Cvt 2ohm(model) this months audio car winner(the orange sl) may look better but im safe to say mine sounds better!(its nice for a system to look good but how does it sound?)
not to brag but my Vr4 is completely sound proofed,The list of Equipment is an Alpine W910 Hu,Alpine 701 w701 rux controller(processor,x-over,Eq,time alighnment,bla bla!)on optical cables all Phoenix gold M100,M50,M44,M25 amps! (except my huge Us amp on 2x12 Alpine type X subs!) Mechman 240a alt(big3 grounding done),heavy duty Battery upfront,agm batt in rear,3x2.5 caps(soon removing as caps are a waste of time & money) pioneer stage4 2and5/8" mids(don't laugh at these pioneers $450 a pr little guys.)as they fit perfect in stock dash spots and believe it or not are my favorite pieces in the whole system! Also keep in mind these are mids(built like tanks!) not tweeters! and they seriously F'n rock!(loud and clear!) I have a pr of $750 6.5" SR6500 Polks in my doors and those little mids keep right up with my big $ Polks! and ad soooo much to the front sound staging!(after hearing them i couldn't be w/o them and of course got the Kicker Cvt 6.5 mini subs(set at 63hz-300hz low/mid) in rear and their not doin squat? (biggest let down of my whole system! Ya i'm not sure if it's a cancellation(big subs clashing w/them?) issue or what had them completely sealed incl the port tube(stock 6x9 enclosures) closed off ect but the kickers are suppose to be like 150 rms/300pk but no volume at all?(i've heard louder ipods?) Btw how are your Kickers doin in your setup?? Hey 2F'N loud how r you commin along on your stereo install?(Jim aka spaceace60 in Pa.!) Btw I am always buying horse trading audio gear infact my 2x12 sub box is up for grabs!,($120) hell between labor/materials i'm givin it away! for $165 they can have all 3 power caps!(thats $120 in caps free) it's not ez to get one to fit just right(rear seat lip over box ect ect) thanks! love seen different installs in these cars!

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[j2k4]

For the beneift of those whose eyes bleed while trying to decipher word-bricks:

Hey thats funny i got the exact setup(Kickers) for my

rear fills except mine are the Cvt 2ohm(model) this months audio car winner(the

orange sl) may look better but im safe to say mine sounds better!(its nice for a system

to look good but how does it sound?)

not to brag but my Vr4 is completely sound proofed,The list of Equipment is an Alpine

W910 Hu,Alpine 701 w701 rux controller(processor,x-over,Eq,time alighnment,bla bla!)

on optical cables all Phoenix gold M100,M50,M44,M25 amps! (except my huge Us amp

on 2x12 Alpine type X subs!) Mechman 240a alt(big3 grounding done),heavy duty

Battery upfront,agm batt in rear,3x2.5 caps(soon removing as caps are a waste of time

& money) pioneer stage4 2and5/8" mids(don't laugh at these pioneers $450 a pr little

guys.)as they fit perfect in stock dash spots and believe it or not are my favorite

pieces in the whole system! Also keep in mind these are mids(built like tanks!) not

tweeters! and they seriously F'n rock!(loud and clear!) I have a pr of $750 6.5" SR6500

Polks in my doors and those little mids keep right up with my big $ Polks! and ad

soooo much to the front sound staging!(after hearing them i couldn't be w/o them and

of course got the Kicker Cvt 6.5 mini subs(set at 63hz-300hz low/mid) in rear and

their not doin squat? (biggest let down of my whole system! Ya i'm not sure if it's a

cancellation(big subs clashing w/them?) issue or what had them completely sealed

incl the port tube(stock 6x9 enclosures) closed off ect but the kickers are suppose to

be like 150 rms/300pk but no volume at all?(i've heard louder ipods?) Btw how are

your Kickers doin in your setup?? Hey 2F'N loud how r you commin along on your

stereo install?(Jim aka spaceace60 in Pa.!) Btw I am always buying horse trading

audio gear infact my 2x12 sub box is up for grabs!,($120) hell between

labor/materials i'm givin it away! for $165 they can have all 3 power caps!(thats $120

in caps free) it's not ez to get one to fit just right(rear seat lip over box ect ect)

thanks! love seen different installs in these cars!

[spaceace60]

wow to funny those were almost same kickers i had in rear of mine! then i went to cdt 6x9 gold series but next im getting a pr of 7x10 focals(so badass)but $399 a pr! cpl pics of my system ive done alot of upgrades since! type x subs,mechman alt ect ect but i HIGHLY recommend pioneer stage4 ts062prs 2 5/8" mids for dash (they are perfect fit!)these are badass mids not tweets! they are $450 a pr but so worth(pic on far right!) it i have $750 polks in my doors and the Pioneers sound better!(can't handle as much low end but add sooo much to front stage and again you would never believe how loud/clear these little guys are!!,but its so cool as they fit perfect in our dash position~and i removed my caps they look cool but do more damage than good!

[spaceace60]

This was system cpl yrs ago,not the showiest,but i'd bet one of the best sounding!

1) Alpine W910 headunit
2) Alpine H701 processor /wH701rux controller
3) 3 Phoenix Gold amps(M50,M100,Rt66 6ch amps)
4) Pioneer Stage4 2-5/8" mids(dash)
5) Polk Sr6500 6-3/4" component set w/tweeters(front doors)
6) Kicker 6.5 mid/sub w/adapter plates(rear seats) housings completely sealed incl ports
7) Alpine Dvc Type R 12" subs(x2)sealed
8) Agm highend battery
9) Mechman 270amp Ho alt
10) fully sound proofed/matted/closed cell foam
2 farad caps on ea.amp(they actually have a purpose lol) filtering ect
however this system is NOTHING to one in progress! main thing is as a lifelong musician/Dj/Sound engineer is knowing what to listen for! True audiophiles know a $100 sub in the right box sounds better than a $1000 sub in the wrong box!,but since our platform isnt exactly set up for audio im still learning from others and open for new ideas! Btw my fav items in car by far are the Pioneer Stage4 in dash(they fit great sound awesome!)however not cheap! nxt best option Focal Kx power 3" the rearfill Kickers sucked(i'll never buy another Kicker product!