Look at these HEADS! Whoever on 3si sold Trev this car... You sir are an a-hole!

[Emilie@GZP]

From the seller... "At ESP, everything was disassembled and reassembled"

Who is Enhanced Street Performance ( Contact Information ) ? Hopefully they're not responsible for this gem. If they are.... obviously, stay very very very far away from there!

Expecting a return call on those Stage 3 DR Heads so sweetly depicted.

Esp, I think they're in the Mass. area. They are supposed to be good with these cars. I had those guys try dicking me over on a stealth tt I bough years ago.

[green-lantern]

Yeah I just read the whole thread and I didn’t see DR heads ether.

This guy might of got burnt by the performance shop. I’m interested in what they say.

[CoreyB]

This says it all, and the jackass even posted this but nobody caught it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave@ESP
Adam,

The power on the car is definitely low. The tune is conservative but not causing the low power. We had seen a good amount of blow-by on the dyno but once you mentioned it was a fresh motor, we were assuming the rings haven’t even had a chance to seat yet. We would typically run a fresh motor at lower boost until the rings seat and then go up once the engine is broken in.

Our dyno also reads a lot lower than a dyno jet. I rarely have a car break 400 AWHP on our dyno while other dynos see 500 plus.

So the short answer is the car needs to be retuned once the engine breaks in and hopefully the power will increase to where it should be.
-Dave

[green-lantern]

Yeah I saw that, one of the reasons I was saying the shop might have screwed him.

[CoreyB]

No they didnt, the dyno shop didnt do the work. He told them it was a fresh motor. Had they done the work they would of known its condition.

[green-lantern]

Oh, I thought the shop that did the work had the dyno.

[CoreyB]

Thats what he claimed but when you read that post its clear that ESP didnt build the engine.l

[green-lantern]

Ahhhhhhhh! OK, yeah good catch. Unless the dyno guys didn't realize that the shop built it. That would be kind of slim but 3sx’s dyno isn’t in the same building as the shop so it could be the case.

[J. Fast]

I dont see anywhere in that hadd that he called then Dynamic Racing Stage 3 heads, he just calls then "stage 3 heads".

Apparently that was thru PM and phone conversations between Adam and Trevor. As soon as I fipped those heads over after I unbolted them and saw the OEM stamp, I was like... DR MY ASS! Then I started looking at them close, and closer, and closer, all I could do was shake my head. No matter what port or what set of valves I examined I couldn't help but repeat to myself... "You're fucking kidding me!" I suppose this is a lesson to all those youngsters inexperienced with buying cars. I was taken to the cleaners the first time I went out and bought my first car on my own. Gold undercarriage, Mr. Coffee in the trunk, took 5 years to pay that off. Some guys can sure close a less than honest car deal.

[dbest671]

3000GT/Stealth International Message Center

He had been trying to sell that car since 2006. I honestly don't think he knew WHAT was in the car (I searched back to 2004). Question for DR650 Owners - 3000GT/Stealth International Message Center says that he purchased the car with the turbos and heads. So it sounds like really one guy screw over 2 people (1997gtx & frostedbutts).

I tried to see if he bought the car off 3si, but never found the sales ad if he did. So really we don't know who "built" the car. It does appear that ESP did do some work (like maybe a tune-up) but they definitely didn't do the build.

Alright... since I am a little bored today I did some searching. I found the original car for sale ad. The seller had the thread deleted way back when, but I have "undeleted" it because it contains important information. I wasn't sure if it was the correct car until I looked at the pictures, same FMIC. http://www.3si.org/forum/f10/gauging...modded-273426/

Since I know J. Fast can't view thread I will quote the seller.

Alright, I reallt just want to know how much I'll be able to get for this car, and I don't mean only on 3si, I mean on ebay as well. No mean to insult, but as we all know, selling your car on 3si can be frustrating due to LOWBALLING PUNKS, lol.
ANyways here's the mod list:
New 6G72(only 2000 miles) w/ GTPRO Stage 3 Heads, DR 650R's(BRAND NEW), Lucas 550cc Injectors, RPS Carbon-Carbon Clutch, Spearco FMIC w/ PPE Piping, AEM FPR, MW 300M Output Shaft , 3rd Gen lifters, LS6 MAF-T, Turbo XS RFL, Hot-wired Walbro FP, 3SX Down Pipe, Borla Exhaust, Gutted Pre-Cats with 3in Testpipe, Removed Egr...........and more tiny mods here and there...
ANyways, the car is pretty much ready to go, just needs a little more tuning which will be done!!!
I sold my other VR4 for $14k with a DR650/GtPro357 setup and supporting mods, but not as much as this VR4. I mean it didn't have the stage 3 heads, the FMIC, or the RPS Carbon-Carbon Clutch. With the final price, shipping will be free anywhere in the US, because I have hook-ups for shipping from my uncle's dealership.

So please help me out here guys, HOW MUCH CAN I SELL THIS CAR FOR?????
Thank you, your help is appreciated.

i remember powdercoating that plenum and valve covers, also dropping the motor in andres car
i was about to get it from him and you snatched it from under my nose.
i feel bad for whoever buys it from you for anything above what you paid (7k)
you basically made money on a car that doesnt run right by reselling.

First of all, I payed more for the car, and second you don't know how much I had to spend to reassmble the motor from the screw ups you made putting it together, and I don't even appreciate you coming back at this trying to make this seem a bad deal. The car is already sold. I actually lost some from it, thanx to you.
I really thought you were one of the best mechanics out there. I was at times so stressed with the car that I wanted to send it to GtPro or Dynamic to get it all done again.
I have nothing else to say to you. I freakin saved that engine. I spent soo much money trying to get it in the condition I sold it and you want to come back and offer me less than what I paid for it. Hows F-U sound???
On top of that, Andre (Type R) which I try almost everyday to get a hold of, after a million emails and phone calls, he never answers which I just gave up on. He owed me a RPS clutch, but then he said he wanted it and he'll cash me out which he never did. So I even got screwed out of that. The car on ebay even went for $12k and I got a email FULL of buyers which I mentioned it was alreeady sold. I even had three guys come to my house after so many times of telling them it was already sold just so they can see the car and all they did was offer me higher and higher!!!!
I hope the guy who bought the car will read this so he doesn't even think I'm lying out of this, I have nothing to hide and I have all my credit payments to prove to show how much money I paid to get the motor reassembles!!!