6g74 / built atx

[n2nsanity]

thanks for all the input guys
i'm really more of the see for myself type
so i'll keep all this in mind, but still going to try it out

good thing is, i'll probably get the opportunity to try both
starting with the atx, because that's the least amount of work
and i hate to waste this trans that has so much $ invested into it already

most likely i will just try it for a little while
when i have more time later on, i'll probably swap over to mtx, since they usually are more fun
i just really want to see for myself what this thing can do
if i'm happy i'll leave it this way for a while

if i'm disappointed, i'll be doing the mtx conversion sooner
either way, i already have every single thing i would need for the swap
there are a few things i'd want to upgrade tho
flywheel resurfaced and possibly shaved, new master and slave cylinders and braided ss lines instead of the used parts i have

but before i do anything, this rain needs to go away already
haven't been able to touch it for a week...

[95gto]

i will agree with you about "buying a vr4 in the first place". if i had to do it over again; i'd do just that. and i'd immediately swap in an atx. much less headache that way, and i don't have a colossal fight with insurance coverage.

i don't feel that having IPT building you a trans is the best way to do things--at least not the most economical. that said, even if you're paying $4,000 for a complete trans, bear in mind the cost of a used 6-speed on ebay. now add in the cost of "building" that. you can chew through a wad of cash real quick with getrags; and since they're specific to JUST the 3/s--good luck with finding a wide assortment of suppliers. i can get aftermarket torque converters and clutch packs from a dozen or more suppliers for my trans.

i totally get what chris is saying when he says he prefers mtx. i get that. it's a matter of choice. he has personal preferences; just like everyone else. just because i'm not a huge fan of corvettes doesn't mean that they're shitty cars. just because i'm not a huge fan of rowing through gears doesn't mean that it doesn't have appeal for other people. what i am saying is that the "bashing" is uncalled for. there's pros and cons to any preferential choice a person makes. if you make a choice, great--i'm happy for you. and while we're at it, let's keep the BS to a minimum.

p.s.

95gto, i'm not basing my opinion off any one car. practically any AMG mercedes with a slushbox is a potent force to be reckoned with (the sl350 amg 7-speed was a tenth faster in the 1/4 than the 05 corvette mtx). many DSM's stick with them because they're known to handle higher HP levels better than the MTX--in that specific car. i drove an ls3 atx corvette today--and it wasn't a slouch by any stretch of imagination. of course, it also had the advantage of paddle shifters...but then again, i don't have anything against paddle-shifters; just rowing gears.

experience has taught me that most people who try "racing" an atx for the first time haven't a clue what power-braking is. it was an easy thing to demonstrate back when my car was FWD-tt. simply mashing on the gas would gradually start the car moving. power braking would spin the tires. pretty easy determination about what's getting more power to the wheels from a dead stop.

so again, don't let just the n/a atx experience of a 3/s make the determination for you that "atx's suck. period". the #1 reason why they have such a bad rap on this platform is because they were never offered with forced-induction stock--unlike the DSM's. a tt 3/s atx is NOTHING like an n/a 3/s atx. i know. i've driven my car extensively before and after. even 9b's 8:1 @ 8psi make it feel like the car is downshifting; even though it hasn't. running it in "PWR" mode (so that it downshifts faster) is a spectacular difference. putting your foot into it will instantaneously slam into 2nd gear and you take off.

Dude, sit down the hatorade and take a breath. No one bashed an atx or said they suck period, people with direct experience with them laid out the basics they determined from personal experiences. No one told the guy "don't do it" they said he would be happier with an mtx.

The op is planning on getting his atx up and running, and given how far he is with his install I would say it makes sense to at least try it. He is planning on coming to the NG so we can see how his car does.

I also believe you are NG bound this year right? Solid performance by your car on the drag strip will be the best supporting arguement you could make for an atx on this platform. So bring your car and show people what you are talking about, it is quite literally that simple.

My advice to the op though is to hang onto the mtx setup.

[n2nsanity]

i'm definitely keeping all the mtx conversion parts
i wasn't even considering going the atx route until i ran into this car
i just want to try it out since it's already there
the $ was already spent and the work was already done, so why not

[Boomer3000]

My 2 cents... Potatoes... It worked for me.

[95gto]

i'm definitely keeping all the mtx conversion parts
i wasn't even considering going the atx route until i ran into this car
i just want to try it out since it's already there
the $ was already spent and the work was already done, so why not

I would agree 100%, given how far you are now I would agree you might as well try it.

[RL7]

At least you can drink TWO beers while driving with the ATX. That's probably why I still have mine.

[IPD]

At least you can drink TWO beers while driving with the ATX. That's probably why I still have mine.

-diddle the gf/wife
-change stations on the radio
-eat lunch

any or all of the above. i can also drive with my left foot out the window.

[Boomer3000]

or eat a potato

[TUFFTR]

Ive mastered eating maccas while driving a manual. I have pretty much reached the pinnacle of driving.

[GTwizard]

Looking for NA's to play with at NG11.
3.0s, 3.5, ATX,adn MTX.
Like to see someone other than 3SX compete with ours. Their alcohal burning, 13 to 1 compression is a monster for sure.
I am sure they too would like someone other than I to play with. LOL. I am still 3.0 adn still 10 to 1. Someone need to do 100 in the 1/4, adn low 14s.
Is this NG11 smack/Hype? You bet it is.

1ST place NA dyno - TX gathering 2010 - 229 FWHP
1st place Fastest NA - TXG 2010 - 98.3 trap
1st Place quickest NA - TXG 2010 - 14.680
2ND place 1/4 at NG10
best NA time NG10 - 14.932- no traction
2ND place 1/4 at NG09
2ND place Autocross NG09