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    Quote Originally Posted by Emilie@GZP View Post
    the bottom mounting point is TOTALLY different. it has nothing to do with the angle of the rear shock assembly that you run into with the AWD conversion.
    i'm confused. the rear shocks on an awd conversion are at a different angle than on an OEM awd car. it's VISIBLY different. this is the only reason i can think of for why my coilovers actually rub the rear axle flange when the car is in the air (the stock shocks cleared). it doesn't appear to be a brand issue either, as every brand i've seen has the same "larger diameter" screw-on base for the shocks (larger diameter than OEM). the rake isn't quite as steep on an OEM awd car, and that's the only reason i can think of for why they would clearance better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inperfectdarkness View Post
    i'm confused. the rear shocks on an awd conversion are at a different angle than on an OEM awd car. it's VISIBLY different. this is the only reason i can think of for why my coilovers actually rub the rear axle flange when the car is in the air (the stock shocks cleared). it doesn't appear to be a brand issue either, as every brand i've seen has the same "larger diameter" screw-on base for the shocks (larger diameter than OEM). the rake isn't quite as steep on an OEM awd car, and that's the only reason i can think of for why they would clearance better.
    you're missing the point.

    the FWD rear suspension is COMPLETELY different than the AWD. The bottom of the struts bolt up differently. It has nothing to do with whether it's an AWD conversion or a legit AWD.

    The angle of an AWD converted car has absolutely nothing to do with anything regarding fitment... but yes, it is different than a factory AWD... we pointed this out 4 years ago when we did my beige one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emilie@GZP View Post
    you're missing the point.

    the FWD rear suspension is COMPLETELY different than the AWD. The bottom of the struts bolt up differently. It has nothing to do with whether it's an AWD conversion or a legit AWD.

    The angle of an AWD converted car has absolutely nothing to do with anything regarding fitment... but yes, it is different than a factory AWD... we pointed this out 4 years ago when we did my beige one.
    i apologize if i wasn't being clear.

    i totally agree that the awd & fwd REAR struts/shocks are different & and that they are not interchangeable, due to differences in the lower mount.

    what i was trying to point out to the OP was my personal experience in OEM vs. coilover fitment on an AWD converted car. this has nothing to do with FWD whatsoever. it's purely an "oem z15/16" vs. "converted z15/16" fitment issue. z11 rear shocks/struts WILL NOT WORK FOR AWD. period. (as you can tell by the pictures hans posted; demonstrating the different lower mount).

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    Now no fighting you two :P

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    For me it seems AWD and FWD rear struts have only small difference. OD is different. So awd can be used on FWD if metal inset is made (like i did). FWD struts can be used on AWD if whole bushing is swapped out. Thats it.

    So if you are making a conversion then you should get AWD struts and you can have temporarily metal or poly bushing put in and on swap you can remove them.

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