Limits of our motors

[Unknownvr4]

Ok, so me and a friend just got out of a heated argument on what the motors could hold stock. I dont believe this is covered on here yet so i decided to start this thread.

He thinks that if i put 19t turbos on that my motor will blow.

I tried explaining that the limits of the 2 bolts were around 500 hp and the 4 bolts were 700 hp i believe. He also thinks that at that power level, a stock timing belt would pop. I tried telling him no matter what hp level your car is at, whether at 100hp or 1000hp, your timing belt spins the same speeds. His dad which is supposed to be a mechanic agrees with him.

Please only chime in if you know for sure, dont chime in if you just think you know. I would like some of the shops who have actually taken the cars to the limits to chime in for me.

Thanks,
Benn

[2fnloud]

in for an education

[Unknownvr4]

I hope 3sx chris posts in this thread. I know he took a 2 bolt to its limit before but i dont remeber what it was.

[2fnloud]

Yeah I know he got his up there too I wanna say like in the 700's.

[boosted3s]

Had to be Brad lol

[x2percentmilk]

Timing belts dont hold any load, so I cant imagine power levels affecting them.

[Unknownvr4]

Had to be Brad lol

How'd you guess? We were going at it for an hour and he's trying to tell me that bills 79 T/A is pushing 600 hp because it has a cam in it... 400 cubic inch motors that year made 200 hp. I hung up on him when he started trying to tell me my cars already unreliable when in fact, the car has only really had 2 issues with it by itself..Everything else thats went wrong with it has been my fault.

Timing belts dont hold any load, so I cant imagine power levels affecting them.

Exactly.

[GTwizard]

You must remember that power and motor longevity will have 90% to do with the tune. You can blow these motors at 200 hp you don't know what your doing.
And it's about prepping a motor correctly for it's intended use. Build it like a drag motor and go road course with it and you will kill it in no time. A good road race motor is not going to do well at the drags. All that being said. Safe Power = wallet size. Even when bulding stock block motors. No one will win the argument. The silly timing belt question. Power has little to do with Timing belt speed.

[MR2]

"Stock motors" generally some point past 500hp people start to crack pistons(does not matter 2 bolt or 4 bolt)
timing belts are the same on even 1300hp 3000GT's lol
the only thing with heads/cams that limit power is flow potential and when the springs start to float, the whole spring floating thing is due to too much RPM..not exactly power related.

IF you swap the pistons + rods then I think with a near perfect tune the 2 bolt was starting to back the bolts out at what..800 hp? the 4 bolt guys generally have not had too many problems going 1300hp + that I've heard.

back to your actual issue, generally idiots ARE idiots becouse they don't listen to reason or doing their own research, I would not generally bother discussing it..just do what you want with your car and nod at them when they say silly things.

[mb3000]

In for numbers.