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    That is great!!

    Here is my Saturn right before I pulled the system out.

    I like how you have that box built to accommodate your rear strut tower bar. Do the strut bars really make that much of a difference?

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    WOW you have pushed the rice limit. I must say that stereo is really impressive! You have a shitload of work in that car.

    The strut bars, yeah some more than others. The 3 point Cianci I had made the car a good bit more ridged. It felt tighter in the corners. I hated to sell it but it wouldn't fit with the FMIC piping. The rear one works much better through the box than it would without the box because it's very tight. It's almost like a 3 point bar. I could feel the difference when I backed out of the garage the 1st time. It also makes the box much harder to steal. ha ha

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2fnloud View Post
    I sold the old school HCCA's and went with:



    But I have even sold the two D5000's so now I have

    Orion:

    3 HP-4800
    2 HP-2400
    1 HP-4600
    1 HCCA-D2400

    At my disposal.
    Awe, I wanna kinda cry now, lol. The old school orion amp's were pimp, and big as shit. Dad had some, till they got stolen.. fuckin fags...

    Lol, Yeah with the strut bar there, your box is going no where for sure.

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    Hey 2fnloud the Saturn looks phat.. I like it!!! Hey just with your box design you emailed me - I'd want at least 3" in front of them. 1" might be to close and cause too much compression. Give it a go and see how it sounds. Remember it doesn't matter how you design your box spec's wise as you are still putting your subbox inside another box (your car) and this will change the sound again. Your probably the only other one I know of here on 3SGTO that has a big system going in...
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    Quote Originally Posted by reallyxxxxxxloud View Post
    Hey 2fnloud the Saturn looks phat.. I like it!!!
    Thank you. Seeing what you have done and you run a professional shop and I am a "tree shade" hobbyist, that compliment means allot.

    Quote Originally Posted by reallyxxxxxxloud View Post
    Hey just with your box design you emailed me - I'd want at least 3" in front of them. 1" might be to close and cause too much compression. Give it a go and see how it sounds. Remember it doesn't matter how you design your box spec's wise as you are still putting your subbox inside another box (your car) and this will change the sound again.
    I only have 12.25 maximum height. This will allow me to store my moon roof back there still. Using .5" birch, gives me 11.25 max height. Losing 3 inches would leave me with 8.5 interior height........never mind, I opened my box design and my interior dimensions are 7.25" high x 38" wide x 9.5" deep, I can go 4" in front of them. As far as graphs there are two that are different from the file you sent me, so I am confident in my revised design. I know the performance will change, I just wanted to keep tweaking my design to squeeze everything out of it. I think I will be surprising allot of people with the output of four 8's.

    Quote Originally Posted by reallyxxxxxxloud View Post
    Your probably the only other one I know of here on 3SGTO that has a big system going in...
    I wouldn't consider this THAT big of a system. What I was going to do with the Saturn install v2.0 was going big! The Saturn was going to have:

    Everything that I have listed here but replace the four 8's with 2 Orion HCCA 12.2's and replace the HCCA-D2400 with two HCCA-D5000's. ALL channels were to be active x-overed. I was going all out in the Saturn. Like I mentioned then I found the Stealth, and changed directions. The only Active that MAY happen still is the front, and that will be contingent on the weight I add.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2fnloud View Post
    I think I will be surprising allot of people with the output of four 8's.
    Speaker design has come a long way. There is no doubt you can get a bunch out of four 8's. My old bass players amp had four 8’s and it was the loudest bass amp I have heard. It had a shit load of low end, this thing had balls for sure.

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    Wow this looks AWESOME!

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    Actually green-lantern (apart from sub woofer excursion vs output) Speaker design has taken a major step backwards. Manufacturers have now gone Chinese and it is no longer about sound quality. I'd say 80% of what was once considered good quality SQ is now $ orientated. That and the fact most people have no idea what SQ actually sounds like- funny enough.

    To truly understand what SQ is. It does take training and even still most don't get it. But once you do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Agreed, brands like MTX, Audiobahn, etc have litterally gone from great, to meh. I remember my first set of subs still and wish I still had them, they were the MTX Thunder 8000's 12" I haven't had bass that sounded that clean in years. Sure things may be loud, but once you hear a really good quality thoughroughly engineered sub you'll have a new outlook on what you want to hear in bass. I hate the my subs have xxxxwatts arguments that I get into with peopl, there are some outstanding sounding subs that only have 800watts peak power. Now it's all about 3000watts, a 50lb magnet, some fancy basket machining, and cheap Chinese labour with a huge markup. Build it here, charge more for quality labour and materials, and make everyone happy is what I say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Parker View Post
    Agreed, brands like MTX, Audiobahn, etc have litterally gone from great, to meh. I remember my first set of subs still and wish I still had them, they were the MTX Thunder 8000's 12" I haven't had bass that sounded that clean in years. Sure things may be loud, but once you hear a really good quality thoughroughly engineered sub you'll have a new outlook on what you want to hear in bass. I hate the my subs have xxxxwatts arguments that I get into with peopl, there are some outstanding sounding subs that only have 800watts peak power. Now it's all about 3000watts, a 50lb magnet and some fancy basket machining.
    Sounds like they are trying to over compensate something

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