My 2017 GT350

**95gto** · 06-21-2018, 10:19 AM

I think I am in the same boat as you Chris, after a couple runs I tend to stay fairly consistent. However my problem is I start collecting gains and losses for a net gain of 0. If I shave time in one section I tend to make a mistake that gives it right back somewhere else. I would be interested to see what Kenny says, to see if his take is a little different. Nate's perspective would also be interesting.

As for the pylon turn at NG10, it was a lot of fun but to truly enjoy it you had to ruin your overall time.

**DocWalt** · 06-21-2018, 04:02 PM

My 2nd run tends to be my fastest at big SCCA events where you're limited to 3 runs each day... 1st run is a solid 95% run. Fix mistakes and push harder on 2nd run. If 2nd run was clean go bananas on 3rd run. If the 2nd run was carrying cones or huge mistakes, take a somewhat conservative 3rd run. I find that if I go out and over drive the first run I'm screwed because then I back off WAY too much on subsequent runs.

Two weeks ago I won the Finger Lakes Champ Tour in the BSP class driving a friend's Miata on Hoosiers. I had a crazy fast 2nd run on the first day that would have given me a HUGE lead of 1.5 seconds or something like that. Unfortunately I hit 2 cones, one of them the first cone on course

I took it conservative for my 3rd and final run for the day and ran 1.5 seconds slower but no cones. Enough to have a small lead on Saturday and I stretched it on Sunday but I never really got in the groove again because I was worried about not making mistakes or hitting cones instead of attacking the course.

I keep the same strategy at local events though, but at local events with more runs, I just try and fix things each run and push some corners harder.

I 100% agree with Chris and Levi, after a certain point you're just chasing perfection and it's diminishing returns.

Also, I have the side by side of Chris versus myself in my car. Similar lap times (temperature affected more than anything else, I think) and it's hilarious how active Chris is in the car while I just sorta drive around. I tend towards underdriving cars while Chris overdrives.

On a semi-related note, I've been racing a CRX Si recently. Totally different animal and it's terrifying. I have plenty of bloopers of me being backwards

**95gto** · 06-21-2018, 05:07 PM

I like how you guys have the same wave.

**DocWalt** · 06-21-2018, 07:14 PM

hay guiz

**j2k4** · 06-21-2018, 07:26 PM

I think I can consider my question very well and comprehensively answered.

As to the "progression of progress" I always wonder how I'd do - convinced it would be dark before I learned how to read the course - your Auto-X is essentially an obstacle-course with non-lethal obstacles - I probably would lapse into seeing how many cones I could collect as I muddled about.

I'd forecast a clean run somewhere in the middle of the second day...maybe.

I often wonder how one would do if instead of cones, they were concrete blocks.

Anyway, I can identify with how the attention-span weighs in, and what you guys have said fits - the Bell-Curve of results, as it were.

Not having seen any videos of Levi, I've watched enough of both of Kenny and Chris to concur with what both of you have to say about yourselves and each other - Chris is busy, Kenny less so - I think that's somewhat a by-product of your overall dimensions, Doc...if someone said "drive like Chris", you'd probably knock the rear-view mirror off, wreck your door-cards, and smash your dash.

If Chris tried to drive like Doc, he'd probably forget to shift, or maybe fall asleep.

Suffice it to say, two different ways to get through the course, eh?

Post some video, Levi, I haven't seen you.

I remember that wheel incident, though...

**j2k4** · 06-21-2018, 07:27 PM

WTF, I can only thank one of you?

**95gto** · 06-22-2018, 09:33 AM

I don't have any footage from an auto-x where you can see my hands, the movement of my front tire is all you really have to go on. (the run doesn't start until about 1 min into the video)

I have some footage from a 24 Hours of Lemons race earlier this year where you can see my hands. I could try to upload that video but the file may be too big.

I think I tend to be busy with my hands but I also tend to shuffle steer which makes the hand work look different.

**j2k4** · 06-22-2018, 12:01 PM

I'm back OL @ work - I'll look later, Levi - thanks.

**95gto** · 06-22-2018, 01:54 PM

It's not very exciting, so no worries. I will see if I can edit down the Lemons footage to a few laps, Windows 10 dropped the built in movie editing software.