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    Road Racing Prep & Tips

    I have only had 3 track days but learned a lot over that time and would like to share what I've learned for those that are interested. It seems like there are more people auto crossing or road racing than I ever remember.

    Basic Track Prep:

    1. Clean out your interior and clean all windows. (glare on a sunny day sucks)

    2. Wheels and tires - Make sure you have plenty of tread, no odd wear, proper air pressure, no cracks in the wheel ect. I usually keep air pressure around 32-34 psi for the first session and let the tires heat up. Once hot, I'll run them around 36-38psi on the track.

    3. Suspension (Alignment) - This is a no brainer but make sure you have a proper alignment and inspect your suspension. ***My first track day inspection, I had loose rear suspension bolts*** You should have to do an inspection anyway before the track day, but I always get under the car and check. For alignment, the best I could get is 0 degrees toe (very important) and -1 camber all the way around. Ideally, you want -1.5 up front, -1 rear camber for our cars. (I need Eibach camber bolts)

    4. Fluids - Make sure all of your fluids are fresh and topped off if you want your car to last. I run RBF600/660 brake fluid and do a full flush before every track day. (you can get away with not doing it on AutoX) I did Redline full synthetic for the entire drive train. Engine oil I normally run Rotella T6 and it's done well. With the last round of mods and weight reduction, it thinned out a bit on my last track day as I was running a lot harder. I switched to Redline 10w40 my 2nd track day that weekend. It held up a bit better but I think I will go 10W50 for my next one.

    5. Brakes - One of the most important things! Inspect them and make sure you have plenty of pad and that there is no abnormal wear or cracking. My first track day, I faded my Hawk HP+'s but later learned a lot of that was from not track braking. (giving full pressure to stop, riding the brakes will heat them up extremely fast) For my 2nd event, a 2 day weekend, I upgraded to Carbotech XP10's up front and Hawk HP+ in the rear. This setup did very well and I never faded the brakes although they did get a bit spongy a few times. (when testing their limit and reducing braking distance) My best recommendation on stock brakes is very aggressive pads and as much weight reduction as you can do.

    6. Engine - Inspect everything and make sure there are no apparent leaks, frayed wires, things unplugged, ect. Make sure your battery tie down is snug.

    7. Weight Reduction - There are plenty of threads but these are the simple things that I've done so far. Replace stock leather seat with an N/A cloth manual seat. Remove back seat bottom. Take out everything in the hatch trays and hatch cover. Lightweight wheels. I have Enkei RPF-1's that weigh 18.3lbs each. Turbo back exhaust. EGR delete. Remove heat shields for turbos. Delete Evap Canister and lines. Stock size lightweight crank pulley.

    8. Driving on the track - Our cars are very strong on the track despite all of the real and perceived negatives that you have heard. On stock turbos, our top end is weak and that's a fact. I trap ~108mph on stock turbos which is great but not awe inspiring. We are heavy relatively compared to track inspired cars but surprisingly nimble with the stock setup. Make use of early braking and plan on powering through the corners. There is a lot of body roll stock and you will need to at least upgrade all bushing to poly. I am in the process of doing this and will update this Nov. on my next track day. I'm hoping taking out the slack from worn rubber bushings and old end links will stiffen up the suspension significantly. We definitely under steer but with trail braking we can rotate the beast pretty well. I rode in my instructors Focus RS and it's night and day vs. that thing. Make sure you power on earlier than you feel like you should. The car's AWD does a very good job of keeping traction and moving you where you are pointed. I struggled with this a lot. LOOK TO WHERE YOU WANT TO GO. One of the biggest rookie mistakes is following the car in front and focusing on whats immediately in front of you instead of looking at where you want to go. Make sure you track brake. You want a smooth press of the brake and then stomp it to the floor. Let off easy into the turn (trail brake) and your stock brakes will hold up just fine with upgraded fluid and pads. I couldn't get mine to fade at all. If you brake like you do on the street, pressing but not full pressure, you will cook your pads and fluid very fast. Make sure you heel toe as well. I thought it wasn't possible but you really have to be somewhere you can lay into the brakes, then the pedals are next to each other. This makes late braking a lot easier and prevents you from upsetting the car.

    This is something I just threw together but will edit and add as I remember more.

    **After doing three tracks days I noticed the Rotella T6 5W40 was thinning out so my 3rd day I went to get Redline 10W50. Unfortunately, they didn't have enough so I did 10W40. It still thinned out. I think we really need 10W50 or some variation for road racing as it's hard on the oil. I'll stick with Redline but I've heard Amsoil and Valvoline VR1 is good as well. I'll report back hopefully in Nov. if I can swing it.
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    If your going to talk about tracking this car we really need to get into setup. This is a area I have not found very much information.

    I have been racing offroad desert truck since 2006 and got in to track days in 2012 with a Scion FRS.

    Since then I have had a 2015 STI, Nissan GTR, and I currently have a new camaro zl1 and a 3000gt vr4.

    I would say I have about 15 track days under my belt and I ran in the Top red group in my GTR that was mostly stock with the additions of trans coolers and brake pads and rotors.


    My plans for the 3000gt are as follows.

    KW suspension or something =, I have had great success with KW in both my STI and FRS. I will install wheels and tire firs, test the car and decide which direction I wan to go based on grip and power of the car.
    Upgraded Oilcooler.
    Accusump plumbed into the oil cooler line. This should prevent any oil starvation issues.
    SCE center diff( after I test the stock unit on a couple of track days)
    Rear 1.5 diff after the Viscous rear diff is full tested
    Bushing ect after through track testing on new sticky tires
    Big brake kit, These Brakes are small and in no way can hold up to the abuse of a heavy ass car and me on a track environment. I over heat them daily on my way to work.
    I may add intercoolers for Cooling and upgrade the radiator.

    I currently have on order 18x9.5 38 offset wheels with the intention of running 275/35/18. This maybe to big of a tire though with the my given power output. So I may run 255/40 rcomps on track and a 275 on the street.

    Front camber will be a 1.9 with as much caster as I can throw at the old girl. rear I want .5 -1 camber keep the car stable out of turns and provide rear traction. My toe will be factory specs to start.

    Feel free to add to this list fellas.

    Gregg

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    My setup:

    Suspension
    Tein S-Tech Springs with new KYB's
    3SX Rear Control Arms
    Ninja Complete Front Poly Bushings
    0 Deg. Toe, -1 Deg Camber all around.

    Wheels/Tires
    Enkei RPF-1 18x8.5 40mm 5x114.3
    Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Position 255/40R18 (Rear fenders rolled)

    Engine
    DSM Sidemounts
    1 Step Colder NGK's
    Hallman RX Pro @14psi
    3SX Fuel Loop
    Ninja EGR Delete
    3SX Single Pass Radiator
    Ninja Silicone Radiator Hoses
    3SX Preintake Pipes
    DNP Y-Pipe
    Ebay Precat Eliminators
    DNP Downpipe
    3SX Test Pipe
    M2 Catback
    AEM FPR & Gauge
    Walbro 255
    Ninja Hotwire Kit
    Big Tyla Ground Kit
    EVAP Delete
    JDM EVO MR BOV
    3SX Poly Motor Mounts

    Brakes
    OEM Rotors
    Carbotech XP10 Front / Hawk HP+ Rear
    GTO MR Brake Ducts
    RBF600/660 Fluid

    Weight Reduction
    3SX Stinger Hood
    Driver's NA Manual Cloth Seat
    RPF-1's 40lbs lighter than stock wheels with 245/40R18 Pilot Sports. 20lbs light with S-04's.
    CD Changer Delete
    EVAP Delete
    EGR Delete
    Shark II Antenna

    Things left to install:

    98 SL Flash ECU
    BlackStealth OBD-II Converter
    MAFT with 3" GM MAF
    SAFC-II
    450cc Blacktops (may go bigger, see below)
    99 Front Bumper
    99 Sail's

    Things left to buy:

    Billet DR-650 turbo set
    Flash ECU conversion harness
    EVO 560cc Injectors
    Bellhousing Brace & Install
    South Bend Clutch OFE Series Stage 2 K05075 HD OFE ENDURANCE
    CXRacing 2" Intercooler Piping
    CXRacing Oil Cooler + Line Upgrade Kit
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    Setup I had on the red Stealth last time it's been on the track:

    rubber: 18x9.5 PF01 with 280 wide Yoko Advan slicks all around, used to run 275 conti challenge hoosier slicks

    Suspension:
    Stock ECS struts locked to sport, Eibach springs, used to run K-sports but those blew out and never got around to having them rebuilt and revalved.
    Front strut tops redrilled for more camber and caster, spring now almost touches the inside sheet metal of the strut tower
    eibach camber bolts, a really dumb thing to do, I don't advise using them, they are unsafe, can't remember if I removed them or not
    3sx Addco sway bars and poly bushings
    raised rear subframe
    custom solid bushings in rear subframe and rear diff
    AWS deleted

    Brakes:
    XYZ 355mm front brakes with carbotech XP10 pads, was ducted but since those were torn out probably during a crash
    rear stock 2G with XP10 pads
    custom 1 piece brake lines front and rear.
    I'm light on brakes so the upgrade was only because I can't find 2G rotors that don't break in half anymore. Proper brake application and watching those temps meant I could still out brake most people without lighting them on fire anymore.

    Alignment:
    as much as possible negative camber up front, if you can get -4 degrees then get it. Bonus points for adding caster
    I toe out a tad up front, 0 toe rear but a bit of toe in will settle down the back end if you're a deep braker.
    rear is as negative as I could get it, somewhere like 1.5 or 2 degrees, and my trailing arm adjusters are moved inwards as possible.

    drivetrain: This is where it gets weird, due to breaking my last new JDM ratio transmission on the track, I pieced together some spare parts and went full retard. Transmission is a 6-speed. Previous to this I ran all stock except had a remote breather on both the transmission and transfer case to keep from blowing the fluid out at high speeds
    Welded center diff
    welded rear diff, 5-speed ratio
    removed front diff, removed front pinion
    blocked off front axles holes
    removed front axles
    installed stubs in front bearings to keep them together

    engine:
    stock engine internals
    wrx 13t turbos
    greddy fmic, tilted install
    2" aluminum radiator, lowered, moved forward, and tilted install
    coolant swirl pot
    23 psi pressure cap
    drilled and disabled thermostat
    blocked off thermostat bypass port
    2 14" fans bypassed to be on constant
    vented hood
    oil cooler the size of most Honda radiators
    still overheats, fmic can suck it
    half finished dry-sump system, bought a new car before I had a chance to install it

    Also car has front splitter, is fully gutted, and all that jazz. It really hasn't moved since I now drive a stockcar, thinking about trying a new radiator, figuring out how to get more steering lock in the front end, and and go drifting with it or something stupid.





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    A quick update. I installed the Front LCA and sway bar poly bushings and wow, did it make a different.The right side was worn more than the left, nothing major but definitely cracks in the rubber. After my alignment, my caster went from 3.6 degrees left and 4.3 degrees right to 3.8 left and 4.1 right. I still need camber bolts in the front because the most I can get is just under -1 degree. I'm hoping new bushing will remedy the body roll I have but I may give in and do the Addco sway bars.

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    Engine and fuel:

    Borg Warner S475 Single turbo
    DEI T4 turbo shield
    T4 Single turbo manifolds
    GCtech Intake manifold
    Pampena Motorsports headlift fix
    Port and Polished heads
    Port and Polished Lower Intake Manifold
    Unorthedox Racing Cam Gears
    BC 272 Cams
    BC valves, springs and titanium retainers
    BC 625 Rods
    Gates Kevlar belt
    Tial Q Bov
    Tial v60 Wastegate
    Greddy/GTpro Fmic
    Koyo Radiator
    Mishimoto Fans
    3rd Gen Lifters
    Turbo Back 4" Exhaust
    ICH 4" Exhaust with Xforce muffler
    Crank Case Oil catch and Evap can
    Vacuum hose reduction
    Q45 throttle body
    Walsbro e85 fuel pump
    Aeromotive Fuel Pressure Regulator
    Bosch ev14 1250cc injectors
    Italo Billet Oil Pump Gear
    Maximal Performance Oil Cooler
    MSD Ignition Coils
    MSD Plug Wires

    Drivetran:

    Solid Motor Mounts
    RPS Max Street Clutch
    Custom PST 1 piece carbon fiber drag driveshaft
    Stainless Steel Braided Clutch line
    Pampena Motorsports solid transmission mount
    Pampena Motorsports solid differential bushings
    Short shifter
    Quaife Front differential
    Kaaz Rear differential
    Supercarengineering Center differential
    Billet 18spline Transfercase
    300m rear axles

    Suspension:

    Stainless Steel Braided Brake lines
    AWS Delete
    ABS Delete
    Stance Superstreet Coilovers 12k front 10k rear with SCE Evo 8 adapters
    Volk GTC 18x10
    Ksport BBK
    Carbotech Xp10/8 pads
    Addco front and rear sway bars
    Solid front subframe bushings
    Solid rear subframe bushings
    Super pro control arm bushings
    Shocker yellow powdercoated subframes and trailing arms
    2nd Gen rear brake conversion
    Pitroad M rear control arms
    Pitroad M / Carbing front strut bar

    Electronics and Management:

    Racepak Iq3
    AEM EMS Series 1
    AEM Methanol kit
    AEM Oil Gauge
    AEM Oil Temp
    AEM Trueboost
    AEM Wideband
    Apexi turbo timer


    Exterior:

    Latitude 42 Pop up HID conversion
    Retrospec Carbon fiber front lip
    Euro 3000gt Turn signals
    Cianci front Carbon Fiber Fenders
    Cianci carbon fiber side skirts
    Pitroad M Led Tail lights
    Pitroad M rear carbon fiber fenders

    Deft Racing 1st gen carbon fiber hood w/aero latch

    Interior:

    Personal Neo Eagle Steering wheel
    Works Bell hub with Nrg quick release and lock
    Sparco Pro2000 Carbon Driver's Seat
    Sparco Pro2000 Passenger's Seat
    Corbeau Seat Rails

    I'd suggest having dedicated rotors and pads for track days, when you bed the pads into new rotors you'll get much better results than to bed new pads into old rotors. Also good fluids

    Another suggestion, second set of lightweight wheels with dedicated tires

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