The Official 2010 NCAA College Football Thread

[HilbillyHomeboy]

^haha, I was a little lost until you posted the "damn it" and 80's. Then I knew.


This would be a dream come true for me...

Two divisions North/East (or old school) and South/West (or upstarts)

UConn
Cuse
Rutgers
WVU
Pitt
ECU

TCU
Houston
USF
UCF
UofL
Cincy

It would actually work pretty well I think. Travelling partners and good rivalries are introduced. TCU is obviously the wild card in there(I think Houston would follow if we could get TCU).

Jeremy

[AdamVR4]

Anything in particular stir that dream scenario? I haven't really heard much about TCU to the Big East. I guess the motivation is there with the auto bid..?

[HilbillyHomeboy]

The auto bid is huge, plus being able to potentially lose one and still play in a BCS game(that ain't happening in the MWC). The MWC looked poised to make a run at our bid(which is good through the '14 bowls, contrary to popular belief that it is only through '12) until the defection of Utah & BYU it's just not there now. Picking up Boise is not enough IMO. Yeah, this year is a VERY down year, but this isn't the norm. One year simply isn't enough to write us off. I guess the real x factor here is how much more the B10 goes after, if they expand to 16, all bets are off for everybody, everywhere.

It has been 100% confirmed that TCU has engaged in talks with the BE. How much talking was done is unknown. Very hush hush, I've been following this like mad.

This sums it up really well:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4...ath-to-the-bcs

But TCU? Isn't it in Texas?

TCU appears to be a little out of the way for the Big East at first glance. After all, the nearest teams are Louisville, Cincinnati, and South Florida, all a considerable distance from Fort Worth, but all former conference members for TCU back in Conference USA.

And while TCU was too far away from the Big East when it had to replenish following the ACC raid, but such would no longer be a problem given the changing college football world where Texas and Oklahoma almost ended up in the Pac-16. Distance no longer matters in the coming super-conference world.

Of course, TCU is located in Fort Worth, nicknamed Cowtown and whose slogan is "Where the West Begins". Fort Worth has long prided itself on its Western heritage and uses it to differentiate itself from Dallas, called in Fort Worth as the place where the East ends.

Being associated with a conference focused in northeast urban centers seems completely contrary to everything about Fort Worth.

But TCU's current conference membership already requires travel to distant locations all over the western United States, including in some obscure locations such as Laramie, Boise, Fresno, Colorado Springs, and Fort Collins.

Going instead to Tampa, Louisville, Cincinnati, and Pittsburgh seems to be a real improvement.

And as TCU coach Gary Patterson recently noted, the travel would not be much different.

On the issue of competition, TCU would not face an upgrade in competition by joining the Big East. Instead of playing Boise, Air Force, Fresno, and Nevada, TCU would play West Virginia, Pittsburgh, South Florida, and Cincinnati.

TCU's path to a BCS bowl would be easier given that one loss would not prevent TCU from getting the Big East's bid. The Big East bowl tie-ins, while weak for an AQ conference, are better than those of the MWC.

TCU would avoid playing at high altitude, where TCU has struggled at times.

Ultimately, with Utah and BYU gone from the Mountain West Conference, the conference is less appealing for TCU and is less likely to gain AQ status. In the revamped MWC, TCU would have the largest average attendance of any school in the conference.

For TCU, the Frogs would greatly benefit from exposure to the Eastern media. Instead of being that obscure team in with purple uniforms and a Frog mascot, TCU would garner substantial attention in some of the top markets in the country, plus have all the coverage that comes from being in what is ESPN's home conference.

TCU would also be greatly assisted in basketball, being able to entice many of the Big 12 recruits with the possibility of playing teams such as Syracuse, Louisville, Cincinnati, UConn, and Georgetown. And while TCU would unlikely leap to the top of Big East basketball, it would still be better than its current situation at the bottom of the Mountain West Conference.

And while the Frogs would rather be in the SEC or Big 12, the Big East is very small step up that would yield huge dividends for TCU.

Ultimately, the nuts and bolts of this possible relationship make too much sense for both sides not to go forward.

[blindmist]

TTU is just too boring without Mike Leach. I miss all of the controversy. I was working at the TV station when all that shit went down. I was a Master Control Operator. I don't know how my top dogs I spoke to from ESPN and the other sorts.

[BigTyla]

Open, damn it, open! Prime, you said the Matrix would light our darkest hour.



Jeremy

That was actually my second guess, but I decided to go with the more poetic and "popular" answer.

[Stealthdriver]

I know UCLA isn't very good, but damn! Oregon is definitely the legit #1 team. From last night I don't see any real weaknesses. I don't see anyone stopping them on their way to the MNC game and it makes our 72-0 dismantling not look as bad heh.

[HilbillyHomeboy]

Their offense is explosive for sure, but I see some weakness in the defense. UCLA marched right down the field on the first possession. An inexperienced qb was their real undoing(that first INT was an easy TD). I still don't think they would have won, but it wouldn't have been the bloodbath that it was had they had a qb that knew how to read.

Oregon reminds me a lot of the Colts. Much of their success is the crazy fast tempo. I'm not saying they don't have a lot of big time play makers, because they certainly do. I'd just like to see them matched against a "fast", mature, defense.

I agree, I don't see anything keeping them from the MNC game. They are damn good.

Jeremy

[Mikes2nd]

ucla is nothing this year man... Cal did pretty much the same thing last week... And cal sucks also... big wins of UC Davis and Colorado... rofl...

seriously the weakest of the pac 10 pretty much so lets not crown them champs just yet. Beating Stanford was their real win. Other than that its pretty much been cupcakes.

and stanford choked on that game. Stanford was up 21-3 in the first then rolled over..

[HilbillyHomeboy]

The entire Pac-10 is a schizo show, when it comes to wins and losses...except Oregon.

Stanford proved what I said about that defense. It's got holes, but can you play 4 quarters of D against that lightning fast, multiple threat Oregon offense? They've still got USC(who got beat by Washington) and Oregon State(who also lost to Washington), and Washington (who lost to BYU & Arizona State). That conference is nutso, lol.

Jeremy

EDIT - Not that the Oregon defense is terrible by any means, but it can be exploited. Right, Stanford had them down 21-3. How did they come back? 2 forced turnovers. Stanford scored exactly 0 points in the 2nd half of that game...

[BigTyla]

Oregon's defense resembles an Auburn defense with a better secondary and a slightly worse defensive line. Much more well-rounded but still exploitable like ours.

I have a feeling they will slip up at USC next week though.