2015 3S National Gathering Mega Thread

[2fnloud]

Pretty much an assumption based on my own helmet cam that I've had for 3 years at events and that there is helmet cam vids of NCM on youtube. SCCA is usually a lot more strict on things like this than private track events and their requirements center around "as long as it doesn't effect the integrity of the helmet or pose a threat of injury (sharp edges or unable to break away)".

I would have the camera tethered to the mount for sure.

[Lori]

If NCM allows it, then I don't have a problem. But the contract with them is extremely long and extensive, so I'll be just asking on-site at the event or just prior. I'm starting a list of questions that people have. That's about the best I can do.

[DrGonzo]

I saw somewhere mention the helmet requirements were something like Snell 2005.... The one I have and have used for a couple years now is ECE 22.05 and never had any issues with it. I have no clue how that crosses over with Snell standards. Anyone have any ideas??

[anyonebutme]

ECE is the European version of DOT motorcycle rating. It does NOT meet the Snell SA standard. IF the track requires an SA rated helmet, even SNELL M will not fly, it has to be a SNELL SA automotive racing helmet, not a motorcycle helmet, and 2005 or newer rating. This is the last year for 2005 rating, in 2016 you MUST have a SA2010 rated helmet or newer. In the past we have let a lot slide, but we are cracking down now. If the rules state snell SA for roadcourse, I have a feeling more than a few people are going to be really pissed when they are told they can't go on track because they failed tech.

AutoX is a different story, but it depends on if the track has a say. In SCCA and NASA autoX, any rated helmet flies, even motorcross, but not those Harley rider skull caps, lol.


I'll take a moment to make something else clear: Your car must pass tech inspection to roadcourse. People did fail last year.

[DocWalt]

Can we please verify the SA vs M ratings ASAP? Like, yesterday... I (and many others) will need to find new helmets ASAP if that's the case.

[DrGonzo]

Does anyone know if the track rents helmets then??? I'll be damned if I'm going to drop $200 on a damn helmet for a $50 touring lap...

Does anyone have the tech inspection sheet as to what all will be inspected? I know leaks is a big no no, but what else? not seeing any of this important information listed anywhere in plain site.

[DocWalt]

Track supposedly sells helmets for $300... Other clubs have had SA required, but we'll have to wait for an answer from Lori or Alan, I guess.

[DrGonzo]

Did a quick google search of the NCM site and found this which shows helmet rental is $25 dollars. 10/10ths

Didn't find a single thing on the site about needing a specific type of helmet for any event. Going to call them tomorrow and get the information directly from them.

[anyonebutme]

3S National Gathering - June 23 - 28, 2015

I'll post the actual sheet in a minute we use. Note it hasn't been updated in years so ignore the helmet part


http://3sng.org/files/NG%20Tech%20Sheet%202013.pdf

Was the #3 google hit for "NG tech inspection" for me.

[Lori]

Greg, I gave you the information about the helmet, which was a direct quote from the track. If everyone starts calling them, we're going to end up with a real problem. I am the liaison, please accept that. I understand this is your first event, so let me explain...

When it comes to track rules, it's up to me to find out what they are. I have a very long, very detailed contract explaining it. I also asked them directly about the helmet requirement, and reported back what they said. If people start calling them to "get it directly from them," a few things happen. First, you make your organizer look like an idiot. That, in turn, will seriously piss her off. Second, they'll get too many phone calls all from the same group and things will not go well for us on the track.

Chris, thank you for posting that. The only update is the helmet rating.

Everyone back off. I feel like I'm being attacked constantly, either over pricing, the website, the rules... PLEASE give it a rest. Here's the quick explanation... I own a retail store. I also plan, organize, and run the NG. In December, I was served with a lawsuit from MY FATHER. Our first court date is this morning. Now... you keep telling me about how you could do this better.