Militarized Zone

[DV8]

On second thought......maybe you are right.
We are already in the throws of 3rd generation gangs .... and ultimately the major North, Central and South American cartels. Instead of a few hundred Al Qaeda-type terrorists 7000 miles away, these "localized" gangs have flourished in many of our major cities for almost thirty years. Having membership and resources ($$$) well exceeding that of Al Qaeda, the cartels could easily control these "cells" with their power and money....if they don't already. Thousands are already here.....thousands more could join them in a few weeks.......with 10's of thousands converging a few weeks later on the Mexican border. No one knows what weaponry they have or could have at their disposal or what they might do if we force their hand. They are much like Al Qaeda....but instead of "religion", they are united by money and power that grows with every passing day.

Maybe we should ask God to just make them go away.

http://mcauleysworld.wordpress.com/2...ican-security/

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/94863.pdf


MS-13 Gang Leader Gets 60 Years for Murder and Robbery.... Hyattsville, Md.


http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2009/M...9-crm-260.html
http://www.gsnmagazine.com/article/2...bers_convicted
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d09708.pdf
http://washingtondc.fbi.gov/dojpress.../wfo052110.htm
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d10395.pdf
http://www.yesweekly.com/article-821...nd-beyond.html

[j2k4]

The 'dangerous' aspect of the border situation is almost entirely due to the drug trade, cartels, and their minion gangs.

The citizenry is largely inert because they live in fear of the cartels.

There is a striking similarity to the dynamic of Islam, frankly - it seems the only thing missing is an unearthly deity.

[venik]

If the drug cartels aren't in bed with the mexican government, then there should be controversy about how they've tried. And I don't see any controversy.

[j2k4]

If the drug cartels aren't in bed with the mexican government, then there should be controversy about how they've tried. And I don't see any controversy.

Just so.

Political correctness dictates we not comment on the Meixcan government's fecklessness in dealing with the utter corruption that pervades.

It galls me to hear their prick of a president come over here and inform us of our shortcomings and policy failures.

[i3igpete]

Iraq never had WMD, aka: nuclear weapons. Why people are still defending Bush's war is beyond me. What a waste of life and money. For further discussion, see me in the political section.

roughly half of the democrats in office came to the same conclusion when presented with the same intelligence that was given to GWB.



and don't forget that saddam didn't give a shit about using WMD's on his own citizens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack

The incident, which has been officially defined as an act of genocide against the Kurdish people in Iraq,[4] was and still remains the largest chemical weapons attack directed against a civilian-populated area in history.[5]

[j2k4]

roughly half of the democrats in office came to the same conclusion when presented with the same intelligence that was given to GWB.



and don't forget that saddam didn't give a shit about using WMD's on his own citizens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack

"That's unfair, and it doesn't matter anyway" *







* Chapter one, pg. 1, The Great Big Book of Democrat Rhetoric

[AdamVR4]

Wow... I knew the violence was bad, but that link was really eye opening. It forced me to explore where my recently totaled truck was taken (I sold it's remains)... The gentleman that bought it lives in Valle Hermoso...

http://www.valleycentral.com/news/story.aspx?id=421948

Holy fucking terrifying shit, batman.

It's OK, let's ignore this problem. There's no way it could get worse!

Uh...

[Alex3000gt]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...ell-iraq_x.htm

In the speech, Powell said he had relied on information he received at Central Intelligence Agency briefings. He said Thursday that then-director George Tenet "believed what he was giving to me was accurate."

But, Powell said, "the intelligence system did not work well."

"There were some people in the intelligence community who knew at the time that some of those sources were not good, and shouldn't be relied upon, and they didn't speak up," Powell said.

"That devastated me," he said.

Powell in the TV interview also disputed the Bush administration's linking of Saddam's regime with terrorists.

He said he had never seen a connection between Baghdad and the 9/11 attacks on New York and Washington in 2001. "I can't think otherwise, because I'd never seen evidence to suggest there was one," he said.

"They have weapons of mass destruction. That is what this war was about," White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said on April 10. But soon the Washington line shifted to claims Iraq had not weapons, but WMD "programs" — also untrue, inspectors later certified. Then the war was framed as one to democratize Iraq.

Democrats and Republicans are both the same corporate whores under different flags. Why people defend them, I'll never know. Drink up.

[DocWalt]

Maybe we should move this shit to the Political Discussions section? kthxbai

[DV8]

Maybe WE need to stay on topic......

Ruthless drug cartels in Mexico are battling against each other and against the government for control of the drug trade. 2008 was the most violent year in Mexico, with around 6,000 drug-related murders. 2009 looks like it could be even worse. And there are fears that Mexico's narco-violence could spread north of the border into the U.S. In this one-hour Vanguard report, Laura Ling travels to the border towns of Juarez and Tijuana, Mexico where drugs gangs are fighting for control of the drug routes into the United States. Ling also goes to the city of Culiacan in Sinaloa State, a region that's known as the birthplace of narco-trafficking in Mexico. Despite the 40,000 federal troops that are patrolling cities across Mexico, violence is increasing and the methods of killings are becoming even more brazen and grotesque. Ling speaks with gun dealers in El Paso, Texas and U.S. officials about the illegal smuggling of weapons into Mexico--90% of the weapons seized in Mexico have been traced back to the U.S. She examines the culture of corruption and lack of public trust in a police force that has become known for working with the cartels.