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    Quote Originally Posted by kywhitelightning View Post
    Lag is a shift away from fun.

    IIRC Matt was discussing them one time in a thread on 3si and I'm pretty sure he said they were 2mm larger than the 19T compressor. 51mm is sticking in my head for some reason.

    The turbine should be the same as the HL.

    Jeff
    In case anyone didn't get my sarcasm...lag comment was a joke

    With an extra 2mm they would be closer to 59-60mm on exducer. From stealth 316, 19ts are almost exactly the same size inducer/exducer on comp wheel as my 14bs. 2mm more would put them around small 16g size on exducer but bigger on the inducer if the 750's are larger than 19t.

    Not that it matters. Just curious. I don't think there is anyway I could get 700whp out of my turbos (without some giggle juice) and wanted to see how far off on sizing I am.
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    Subscribing. I was thinking the same thing with the surge. I would rather have a laggy turbo than surge. I hope you are getting all of these parts shipped to your work address so the better half doesn't find out

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    Quote Originally Posted by familyMAN View Post
    In case anyone didn't get my sarcasm...lag comment was a joke

    With an extra 2mm they would be closer to 59-60mm on exducer. From stealth 316, 19ts are almost exactly the same size inducer/exducer on comp wheel as my 14bs. 2mm more would put them around small 16g size on exducer but bigger on the inducer if the 750's are larger than 19t.

    Not that it matters. Just curious. I don't think there is anyway I could get 700whp out of my turbos (without some giggle juice) and wanted to see how far off on sizing I am.
    I have to do some digging through my subscriptions on 3SI but, I did save it for that reason as he rarely talks about sizing.

    Quote Originally Posted by fastfalcon94 View Post
    Subscribing. I was thinking the same thing with the surge. I would rather have a laggy turbo than surge. I hope you are getting all of these parts shipped to your work address so the better half doesn't find out
    LMFAO. She knows about all the parts as she see's the pile growing. She is just unaware of the level of expense. She has an idea but, the block and turbo expense blew my budget completely. I could have gotten Greg's motor and rebuilt the turbos for about the same but once I committed to this path I had to follow through. I also plan to take it to the NG and she understands the expedited nature of this build. I am also putting nothing but the best in it this time as there was wear on some items that I didn't like so literally EVERYTHING in the bottom end will be new. The heads are being cleaned by me with the lifters being replaced and you all have already seen the cams.

    Had the NG not been in my home state; I probably wouldn't worry about it as much but, this is a vacation my wife and I will not miss as we get to drop the kids off with their grandparents and we get to act like teenagers again. I can't wait to put my mom behind the wheel of 600+AWHP and see the reaction. She was visiting last year before the NG and I had blown a meth line causing a serious lack of power the last time she rode in it ~450WHP. This year will be way different.

    Jeff

    Edit: I found where TSB seems to know the sizes of the compressor 47mm inducer and 58mm exducer. Obviously, my original thoughts from memory were a bit off.

    http://www.3si.org/forum/f142/dr-750...53/index3.html

    There is another thread somewhere on 3SI where Matt gives the dimensions. I just haven't found it yet.
    Last edited by kywhitelightning; 04-02-2014 at 03:04 AM. Reason: Stopping the flow of misinformation

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    I don't think he ever gave the full specs on the turbos since it's a "trade secret." The compressor inducer is 47mm for sure same size as a 20T wheel. He didn't go bigger than that due to longevity issues with the turbos coming apart which I have a feeling was why my MTC turbos did the same thing given the bigger compressor/turbine mismatch. I don't see the compressor wheel exducer being bigger than 58mm. It's not like it matters much. The 9 blade TD04HL hotside is where the real gains are at. I loved mine and went back with them again because the top end is a huge improvement over the 12 blade HL standard turbine. It can keep up with the compressor wheel and doesn't really hurt spool. I saw positive boost by 2200 rpms and 32 psi by 3300.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboSinceBirth View Post
    and 32 psi by 3300.
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    Kickass, man! This car will be an absolute street BEAST!

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    Baby steps but progress is once again being made. The heads are clean. After many baths in soapy water, using pipe cleaners through all the oil galleys, and some time with a dremel and SOS pads they are looking good. I am going to check the valves for a good seal and lap if neccesary tomorrow and hopefully have them fully assembled by the end of the week. The before pics are raunchy at best as I deleted them from my phone and found that they are still there and can only be accessed in thumbnail format. No biggie, you get the idea though.

    Before on the exhaust side.



    Before combustion chamber.



    After exhaust side.



    After combustion chamber.



    Cleaned topside.



    They aren't perfect but, I'm happy with the result. I wasn't going to mess with the valve guides so some carbon had to be overlooked.

    Ray came through with the rods and I goofed pretty badly by waiting for the rods before I bought pistons. If Ray couldn't get me the rods in time I was going to go with his pistons as there is a lead time involved. If he could, I was going to get the same 3SX pistons that were in it the last time as they were off the shelf items before and I called to verify they had them in stock. The day Ray called to tell me the rods were in I called 3SX to order the pistons and they were out of stock with a month of lead time. I called Ray back and had him make me a set of his and I am waiting for probably another 2 weeks for them to be done. Once I get them I will thrash to get this thing together and hopefully the car can make the NG.

    Jeff

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    The oil pan is taking a bath right now as it has already had quite a bit of solvent through it. The bearing material hides in places you can't see and you have to get creative to get it all out. It'll be done later today.

    The new crank and flywheel are cleaned of the cosmeline and the new block is next for cleaning.



    I will also be doing steering rack boots today as the passenger one is torn. I may get the proposed new methanol setup tested too.

    Jeff

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    Awesome! Keep us posted.

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