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**Austin@STM** · 11-15-2010, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by FeaRpb

Just wondering, tho this may be covered and I am at work and can't really read through all of the posts, but what is the weight savings from this and also how does driving with abs compare to deleting the abs?

Saves about 20+ pounds, if you remove everything i believe. As far as drivability, its more personal preference i guess, but i love the way it feels with no abs. I get on the brakes pretty hard doing 130 at the end of the track, and it slows it right down very nicely, it has also never locked up only the fronts or rears, it brakes very evenly.

Mb7050 - It is fairly easy to install, puling the hard lines is the only hard part, if you want to save them at all. If not that part is very easy as well, as you can just cut them into sections and pull them out piece by piece so you dont scratch anything. Going back in just mount the prop valve first (at least thats how i started) and then find the best way to run the lines around your particular setup.

Also when taking the old lines out, if any of them give you an issue, you can just cut them close to the fitting, and then put a socket on them so you dont round them over. Just dont cut the lines going to the rears, those get re-used.

**familyMAN** · 11-15-2010, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by FeaRpb

Just wondering, tho this may be covered and I am at work and can't really read through all of the posts, but what is the weight savings from this and also how does driving with abs compare to deleting the abs?

approx 20lbs in weight savings.

If you don't go around stomping on the brakes and cycling the ABS then it will feel the same with possibly slightly better/firmer pedal feel because of the deleted connections and stainless lines up front. Obviously, if you are aggressive enough to lock up your brakes, they will, because you no longer have ANTI LOCK BRAKES.

**Sean3S** · 11-15-2010, 08:53 PM

Wow, definitely going to get this in the near future, great work.

Edit: Is there any possible way you could make a shorter set for the fronts for those of us with braided lines? Maybe a connection up to the stock little hardline on the strut?

**Chris@Rvengeperformance** · 11-16-2010, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by Sean3S

Wow, definitely going to get this in the near future, great work.

Edit: Is there any possible way you could make a shorter set for the fronts for those of us with braided lines? Maybe a connection up to the stock little hardline on the strut?

I'd also be interested in this question.

**Austin@STM** · 11-16-2010, 06:51 PM

If you already have braided lines up front, this will replace that entire line and fittings, and you can then sell them to make some money, or use them on another car. Once my car goes away for winter, I will make lines to replace the rear soft lines to, so that way if you have lines you can sell the full set.

The kit wil be the same price even if it was shorter lines, so I just went the full length.

**11secondFWD** · 11-16-2010, 11:24 PM

Just a thought. Do they still sell the rear stock brake lines for the dsms? Because mine are pretty rusty and have build up. I was thinking for the future and didn't know of an options for the rear lines. Either a kit or if they make the rear factory ones.

**Sean3S** · 11-17-2010, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Austin@STM

If you already have braided lines up front, this will replace that entire line and fittings, and you can then sell them to make some money, or use them on another car. Once my car goes away for winter, I will make lines to replace the rear soft lines to, so that way if you have lines you can sell the full set.

The kit wil be the same price even if it was shorter lines, so I just went the full length.

Alright, couldn't hurt to ask, wasn't really about the price. That and I just bought a set of Goodridge lines like a day before I found this thread

**Austin@STM** · 11-17-2010, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by Sean3S

Alright, couldn't hurt to ask, wasn't really about the price. That and I just bought a set of Goodridge lines like a day before I found this thread

I can understand that, but I like simple, which in this caes means as few connections to leak as possible.

Like I said soon I will make the replacements for the rear, and put them on the website for people who have lines already, that wway they can re sell all 4 as a kit. Or if they don't have them, upgrade all 4 corners at the same time.

**DrkZide** · 12-24-2010, 01:52 AM

I just saw this thread. I tried searching through it but I can't find anything concerning whether this will be cross compatible with the NA chassis. If not do you have anything that would work?