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  1. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by STiedVR4Guy View Post
    "If you really wanted to get crazy with it, you can take out the wheel speed sonsors and the sensor rings on the axles."

    Will this affect anything else? Is there any point to these if the ABS is removed?
    The speed sensors weigh next to nothing but removing them will allow you to remove the knuckle/hub assembly much easier if you ever need to.

    The sensor rings on the other hand will take about 1, maybe 1.5 lbs off the rotating weight of the axles.


    Max

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin@STM View Post
    You should be able to just take the whole ABS computer out as there is nothing for it to control anymore, thats how i ran mine. I had that pulled before i even pulled out the ABS pump/lines. Also pull the fuse just to be safe in case any of the wires somehow come in contact with anything they wont short out. If you really wanted to get crazy with it, you can take out the wheel speed sonsors and the sensor rings on the axles.

    Glad everything worked out easily, and as far as anything rubbing through you should have an issue with anything, the lines are all coated so there is no bare stainless to rub or cut through anything.

    -Austin@STM
    What about the dash light? I've been pulling the ABS fuse every winter, but then the ABS light on the dash is on all the time. I understood the jumper wire fixed the light problem. If I just pull everything, won't the light be on all the time? Is the light driven by the ABS or ECU? I could just cut power to the light... Guess some manual reading is in order.

    Quote Originally Posted by bluemax_1 View Post
    The speed sensors weigh next to nothing but removing them will allow you to remove the knuckle/hub assembly much easier if you ever need to.

    The sensor rings on the other hand will take about 1, maybe 1.5 lbs off the rotating weight of the axles.


    Max
    Yeah, would like to get rid of all the ABS hardware at the wheels. I think to get them off my NA, I would have to unbolt them and then cut them in half. If I remember right from replacing a front wheel bearing, the ABS ring has to go on before the bearing and knuckle are pressed together.

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    Anyone have pictures of the speed sensors?? I would like to try this out. Doing my brakes and this kit this weekend. I know 1.5 lbs of rotating weight isn't much but it all adds up

    Would like to get things right the first time.

    Edit: found this on 3sx http://www.3sx.com/store/comersus_vi...dProduct=28570. I should be able to go off this thanks for the info guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bfretless View Post
    Yeah, would like to get rid of all the ABS hardware at the wheels. I think to get them off my NA, I would have to unbolt them and then cut them in half. If I remember right from replacing a front wheel bearing, the ABS ring has to go on before the bearing and knuckle are pressed together.
    As the link Stied posted, the ABS ring is actually attached to the halfshaft/axle. You have to remove the halfshaft from the hub/knuckle and then hammer the ABS ring off or use a gear puller, which could be a pain if it's the original half shaft and it's rusted on.


    Max

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    Max, on FWD they bolt to the wheel hub. I know this because when I replaced the driver's front wheel bearing on my SL, the machine shop pressed in the new hub and bearing and forgot the ABS ring. They had to press it out, bolt on the ring, and press it back together again.

    3Sx - Wheel Hub & Bearing Parts

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemax_1 View Post
    The sensor rings on the other hand will take about 1, maybe 1.5 lbs off the rotating weight of the axles.

    Max
    Question on this.. Is that TOTAL or EACH? (1-1.5lbs)

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    Why people want to remove one of the best safety and performance features of modern cars is beyond me.

    I kept the ABS in the race car. It kept the tires round, it gave a better indication of when you had exceeded the available grip level, and it saved my ass more than once in the wet.

    Even though the 3S system is not as advanced as the stuff you can get in a new car, it is still light years better than not having ABS at all.

    DG

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    Quote Originally Posted by DG View Post
    Why people want to remove one of the best safety and performance features of modern cars is beyond me.

    I kept the ABS in the race car. It kept the tires round, it gave a better indication of when you had exceeded the available grip level, and it saved my ass more than once in the wet.

    Even though the 3S system is not as advanced as the stuff you can get in a new car, it is still light years better than not having ABS at all.

    DG
    Not in any way to start an argument, or call your opinion down, but I have had many times in my Stealth problems with the ABS making it near to impossible to stop in a tight situation. I prefer them without in this car, anything newer though I wouldn't go without, It's just too primitive in the 3/S.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DG View Post
    Why people want to remove one of the best safety and performance features of modern cars is beyond me.

    I kept the ABS in the race car. It kept the tires round, it gave a better indication of when you had exceeded the available grip level, and it saved my ass more than once in the wet.

    Even though the 3S system is not as advanced as the stuff you can get in a new car, it is still light years better than not having ABS at all.

    DG
    years of being in the 3/s community have given me the distinct impression that the 3/s ABS system is a flawed construct at best. while i agree with the concept, and i fully support the employment thereof--i fail to see the merit in the 3/s's OEM system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bfretless View Post
    Max, on FWD they bolt to the wheel hub. I know this because when I replaced the driver's front wheel bearing on my SL, the machine shop pressed in the new hub and bearing and forgot the ABS ring. They had to press it out, bolt on the ring, and press it back together again.

    3Sx - Wheel Hub & Bearing Parts
    Never messed with the fwd 3/s's.

    As far as the actual weight of the abs rings go, I can't recall as it's been a while. They are fairly substantial pieces though. Wouldn't want to drop one on your foot while wearing sandals.


    Max

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