my complete BBK conversion using Cayenne S - BREMBO callipers

[stealthTT]

yes, I'm in need for rears that are 28mm wide and 330 at least.
the EVO X(330) are 22mm wide.

about the brake drums:

the 1st gen vr-4, as far as I could find out it has 191 mm
these are close to what the EVO X use, as they have 189 mm brake shoes.

the main thing is this:
IF I will use the EVO VI, VIII, IX or X ones, all the metal dust protections that are in the back of the rotor needs to be removed, as these rotors are placed -7mm, and for that will for sure means that I will need to have some custom brackets for the ebrake cables, no dust protection at all, and also to get first gen e brake pads - that if the hardware is the same on both generations(didn't check that).

now, i have a 2nd gen US model, which is a Stealth, and these are different:
2nd gen US models uses 170(167) mm brake shoes, which here in my country I could found them to be the same one as the EVO VI, VIII, IX.

these EVO's 6,8,9 uses a 300x22 (vs 3kgt 2nd US gen - 295x20), same -7mm rear discs. In order to fit them will need the same removal of dust protection, etc..

and these are not good enough for me as it wouldn't fit the brake pads that I'll use because these are larger (larger than the 3kgt front ones that I have).

also, my rear wheels are 19x10.5 et35, and they didn't clear the OEM calipers, even if they are concave and bbk friendly so I need bigger discs so that I'll be able to use the bigger calipers and to make a perfect match for the pads also.

whats interesting is what the European 3kgt vr-4 models 1st and 2nd gen are using on the rears, they use the 1st gen US models smaller brake system, even if the fronts have been the larger ones from the beginning.
but this I think this is just normal for EU versions, as they were different from many points of view, like the one with the 6 speed vr-4 97 UK spec that I had on my hands that had MR gearing ).

[GTOJOE]

Do some research on a dba rotor with part # DBA 4507A. It's 330mm 28mm thick with a height of 51mm. It's for an Australian delivered car. An FPV (fords performance arm) so you would have to special order it. Failing that I'm sure DBA could mske a custom rotor for you. The 5000 series is a 2 piece rotor so I'm sure they could use a hat for a 3/S and a larger rotor.

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[stealthTT]

Thanks for the part number but i'm located in Romania and it would be crazy to order something from Australia

Also, I looking to get this done mainly using OEM parts fitted on popular cars here lets say, as I need to get this done on budget.

I've went and asked for a XYZ dealer about a full set of rotors and been quoted for about 1400 usd, and thats not for me as I have my reasons.
So far for the pads front and rears and front rotors I have paid around 280 usd, and for the rear discs I should pay close to 120-150 usd.
Thats round 450 for discs and pads and not 1400.

About the rear rotors, keep in mind what I have just wrote, i'm looking to find other brake discs beeing 330x28


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[stealthTT]

Just test fitted the front calipers with the wheels, discs and the front arm, and it looks like it will take more than just a bracket.
The mounting bolts on the calipers are 'almost' in the same position where the oem caliper was.
Its good that my technician is a great guy, and we have a great way out of this but a lot of custom work involved
Tomorrow i'll post pictures.

Have to say that i didnt see this coming as there was here a guy that had the fronts done easy using 380mm rotors and Audi calipers.


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[green-lantern]

Could you clock the caliper a bit and still use a bracket?

[stealthTT]

Yes, i could use one bracket but i will still need a spacer of 10-12mm.
What i will do, i'll fill the actual holes on the caliper and machine new mounting points so that it will be bolt on with just a spacer on the car original mounting points.
Will get more pictures tommorow.


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[green-lantern]

Sounds good, look forward to seeing it.

[stealthTT]

here are some pictures so far with them, this is right side
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and the metal brakets/spacers beeing done.
I've choosed metal and not aluminium.

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[green-lantern]

Holy crap, that's almost bolt on lol

[stealthTT]

yes, "almost" its the right word

I could have filled the caliper holes and redriled them so that they will fit right on there but the thinkness of the wall on caliper gave me some headaches, so I choosed to fit one directly and use the braket as a spacer and on the other one to use the braket as a braket
I will use some custom screws 10.9(strenght), the oem ones were 10 stamped on them.