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    Quote Originally Posted by sketch View Post
    oversight? no. 10 years have passed between X6 and X7 - the point is that we're left to wonder about how it happened so that it can be filled in with a later installment. or perhaps it's in a deleted scene - a scene that's deleted as it doesn't help the story progress, necessarily. we're all left curious, the more curious we are, the more likely we'll be to pay to see the sequel. methinks you're reading in between the lines too much for a comic book movie.
    Don't get me wrong, I like it. I'd argue that it's the best of the 7 so far. But that's not how movies work. Movies with prequels & sequels don't leave plot holes and issues of this type un-addressed. If they went with a separate story altogether--threw the "established movie canon" out the window--then what they did wouldn't be an issue.

    In my opinion, the par excellence of this type is Prometheus. To an avid fan, all the tie-ins were there...yet the movie didn't tell us how or even when Alien followed that movie chronologically; nor does the audience need that information. That's because it's not a key element.

    On the other hand, Shadowcat gaining telepathic powers or Wolverine re-obtaining metal claws...or worse, Professor X re-appearing in the same body; these are things which avid fans of the MOVIES (again, not the comics...because we already established that comic-canon isn't "sufficient" to garner an audience--at least in the hollywood bigshits minds)--has trouble accepting.

    My point is, either connect it securely...or disconnect it so that the ties are VERY loose and there is mystery. Half-way in between is just poor screenwriting.

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    Requiem for a Dream

    9.5/10

    I haven't seen this moving in years. But holy shit is it better than I remember. A total roller coaster of emotions from this movie. Pretty wild how real it all seems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IPD View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I like it. I'd argue that it's the best of the 7 so far. But that's not how movies work. Movies with prequels & sequels don't leave plot holes and issues of this type un-addressed. If they went with a separate story altogether--threw the "established movie canon" out the window--then what they did wouldn't be an issue.

    In my opinion, the par excellence of this type is Prometheus. To an avid fan, all the tie-ins were there...yet the movie didn't tell us how or even when Alien followed that movie chronologically; nor does the audience need that information. That's because it's not a key element.

    On the other hand, Shadowcat gaining telepathic powers or Wolverine re-obtaining metal claws...or worse, Professor X re-appearing in the same body; these are things which avid fans of the MOVIES (again, not the comics...because we already established that comic-canon isn't "sufficient" to garner an audience--at least in the hollywood bigshits minds)--has trouble accepting.

    My point is, either connect it securely...or disconnect it so that the ties are VERY loose and there is mystery. Half-way in between is just poor screenwriting.
    Professor X reappearance was explained in the after-credits scene in X3, additional detail in my link above.
    But yes, overall the X-men series has been very...loose with established canon. And with time frames, character connections, etc.

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    movie25 lately.

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    No, Professor X's re-appearance wasn't explained by xmen3. Sure, he was reincarnated into the body of another man. Ok. So why does he STILL look like Patrick Stewart? And don't tell me it's "mental projection"--he's still rolling around in a wheelchair. If anything, he should have either been portrayed by a different actor...or he should have been walking around & only when he walks past a mirror do you see that it's not actually Charles's old body. Shitty screenwriting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IPD View Post
    No, Professor X's re-appearance wasn't explained by xmen3. Sure, he was reincarnated into the body of another man. Ok. So why does he STILL look like Patrick Stewart? And don't tell me it's "mental projection"--he's still rolling around in a wheelchair. If anything, he should have either been portrayed by a different actor...or he should have been walking around & only when he walks past a mirror do you see that it's not actually Charles's old body. Shitty screenwriting.
    **nerd glasses*

     
    The events of "X-Men: The Last Stand" take place.

    Jean Grey is resurrected as Phoenix. Cyclops is killed. Phoenix kills Xavier and joins Magneto. X-Men and Brotherhood of Mutants battle another until it culminates in Wolverine killing The Phoenix. Xavier transfers his consciousness into his twin brother's comatose body.

    Worthington Labs introduces a vaccine that claims to eradicate the X-gene, leading to violent uprisings from mutant factions that resulted in the destruction of the Golden Gate Bridge. Recognizing the need to improve human-mutant relations, the President appoints Beast as ambassador to the UN.

    Note: The explanation that is given for Charles's resurrection (and elaborated in the tie-in novel) is that Charles had a twin brother named P. Xavier. P. Xavier was born into a comatose state that he stayed in his whole life, theoretically because of Charles's psychic abilities in the womb being so powerful and uncontrolled. P. Xavier eventually ended up as a care subject of Moira's who Charles transfers his consciousness into when Jean kills him.

    His paralysis in his new body could be due to atrophied spine muscles, or the explanation given in Days of Future Past, where his paralysis and telepathy seem to share a relationship.

    (Explanation found in DVD Commentary for X-Men: The Last Stand during the credits.)

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    tl; dr: read the tie-in novels

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    So we're just supposed to "magically" know that the donor body was his "twin brother"? What fucktard decided omitting that factoid was a good idea? Furthermore, how the fuck did his twin brother become paralyzed? I KNOW charles wasn't paralyzed at birth, so it sure as fuck wasn't a birth defect. And if it WAS atrophy, his ENTIRE BODY would have atrophied, arms and all. So if his psychic abilities are "tied to his paralysis", then we're supposed to believe that he's PSYCHOSOMATICALLY INDUCED HIS OWN PARALYSIS...just for the sake of his own abilities? Hell, if that's the case, why didn't Charles try to turn himself into a quadriplegic, just to see if he could turn into a level 6 mutant?

    Utter rubbish screenwriting.

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    P.S.
    So we're also supposed to believe that Xavier has kept his twin alive as a HUMAN VEGETABLE for half a century? I mean, Terri Schiavo had 15 years...and that was pushing it. So was Charles just a narcissistic asshat who thought he'd keep a body-double around "just in case"? Wow.

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    you're looking for realism in a comic book super hero movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sketch View Post
    you're looking for realism in a comic book super hero movie.
    No. I'm looking for basic suspension of disbelief.

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